Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID Failure Calculator (for 8x 2TB RAIDZ)

2011-02-14 Thread Nico Williams
On Feb 14, 2011 6:56 AM, "Paul Kraus" wrote: > P.S. I am measuring number of objects via `zdb -d` as that is faster > than trying to count files and directories and I expect is a much > better measure of what the underlying zfs code is dealing with (a > particular dataset may have lots of snapshot

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID Failure Calculator (for 8x 2TB RAIDZ)

2011-02-14 Thread Paul Kraus
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Richard Elling wrote: > On Feb 7, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > >> On 2011-Feb-07 14:22:51 +0800, Matthew Angelo wrote: >>> I'm actually more leaning towards running a simple 7+1 RAIDZ1. >>> Running this with 1TB is not a problem but I just wanted to >>>

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID Failure Calculator (for 8x 2TB RAIDZ)

2011-02-07 Thread Richard Elling
On Feb 7, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2011-Feb-07 14:22:51 +0800, Matthew Angelo wrote: >> I'm actually more leaning towards running a simple 7+1 RAIDZ1. >> Running this with 1TB is not a problem but I just wanted to >> investigate at what TB size the "scales would tip". > > It's

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID Failure Calculator (for 8x 2TB RAIDZ)

2011-02-07 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2011-Feb-07 14:22:51 +0800, Matthew Angelo wrote: >I'm actually more leaning towards running a simple 7+1 RAIDZ1. >Running this with 1TB is not a problem but I just wanted to >investigate at what TB size the "scales would tip". It's not that simple. Whilst resilver time is proportional to dev

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID Failure Calculator (for 8x 2TB RAIDZ)

2011-02-07 Thread Sandon Van Ness
I think as far as data integrity and complete volume loss is most likely in the following order: 1. 1x Raidz(7+1) 2. 2x RaidZ(3+1) 3. 1x Raidz2(6+2) Simple raidz certainly is an option with only 8 disks (8 is about the maximum I would go) but to be honest I would feel safer going raidz2. The

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID Failure Calculator (for 8x 2TB RAIDZ)

2011-02-06 Thread Richard Elling
On Feb 6, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Matthew Angelo wrote: > I require a new high capacity 8 disk zpool. The disks I will be > purchasing (Samsung or Hitachi) have an Error Rate (non-recoverable, > bits read) of 1 in 10^14 and will be 2TB. I'm staying clear of WD > because they have the new 2048b sectors

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID Failure Calculator (for 8x 2TB RAIDZ)

2011-02-06 Thread Matthew Angelo
Yes I did mean 6+2, Thank you for fixing the typo. I'm actually more leaning towards running a simple 7+1 RAIDZ1. Running this with 1TB is not a problem but I just wanted to investigate at what TB size the "scales would tip". I understand RAIDZ2 protects against failures during a rebuild process

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID Failure Calculator (for 8x 2TB RAIDZ)

2011-02-06 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Angelo > > My question is, how do I determine which of the following zpool and > vdev configuration I should run to maximize space whilst mitigating > rebuild failure risk? > > 1. 2x R

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID Failure Calculator (for 8x 2TB RAIDZ)

2011-02-06 Thread Ian Collins
On 02/ 7/11 03:45 PM, Matthew Angelo wrote: I require a new high capacity 8 disk zpool. The disks I will be purchasing (Samsung or Hitachi) have an Error Rate (non-recoverable, bits read) of 1 in 10^14 and will be 2TB. I'm staying clear of WD because they have the new 2048b sectors which don't

[zfs-discuss] RAID Failure Calculator (for 8x 2TB RAIDZ)

2011-02-06 Thread Matthew Angelo
I require a new high capacity 8 disk zpool.  The disks I will be purchasing (Samsung or Hitachi) have an Error Rate (non-recoverable, bits read) of 1 in 10^14 and will be 2TB.  I'm staying clear of WD because they have the new 2048b sectors which don't play nice with ZFS at the moment. My question