Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Lots of seeks?

2006-08-14 Thread Roch
Incidentally, this is part of how QFS gets its performance for streaming I/O. We use an "allocate forward" policy, allow very largeallocation blocks, and separate the metadata from data. This allows us to write (or read) data in fairly large I/O requests, without unne

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Lots of seeks?

2006-08-11 Thread Anton Rang
On Aug 11, 2006, at 12:38 PM, Jonathan Adams wrote: The problem is that you don't know the actual *contents* of the parent block until *all* of its children have been written to their final locations. (This is because the block pointer's value depends on the final location) But I know whe

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Lots of seeks?

2006-08-11 Thread Jonathan Adams
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 11:04:06AM -0500, Anton Rang wrote: > >Once the data blocks are on disk we have the information > >necessary to update the indirect blocks iteratively up to > >the ueberblock. Those are the smaller I/Os; I guess that > >becauseof ditto blocks they go to phy

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Lots of seeks?

2006-08-11 Thread Anton Rang
On Aug 9, 2006, at 8:18 AM, Roch wrote: So while I'm feeling optimistic :-) we really ought to be able to do this in two I/O operations. If we have, say, 500K of data to write (including all of the metadata), we should be able to allocate a contiguous 500K block on disk and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Lots of seeks?

2006-08-09 Thread Roch
So while I'm feeling optimistic :-) we really ought to be able to do this in two I/O operations. If we have, say, 500K of data to write (including all of the metadata), we should be able to allocate a contiguous 500K block on disk and write that with a single operation. Th

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Lots of seeks?

2006-08-08 Thread Spencer Shepler
On Tue, Anton B. Rang wrote: > So while I'm feeling optimistic :-) we really ought to be able to do this in > two I/O operations. If we have, say, 500K of data to write (including all of > the metadata), we should be able to allocate a contiguous 500K block on disk > and write that with a single

[zfs-discuss] Re: Lots of seeks?

2006-08-08 Thread Anton B. Rang
So while I'm feeling optimistic :-) we really ought to be able to do this in two I/O operations. If we have, say, 500K of data to write (including all of the metadata), we should be able to allocate a contiguous 500K block on disk and write that with a single operation. Then we update the überbl