[zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-11 Thread Fabian Wörner
Wouldn't it be great if the opensolaris community creates a fs fzfs (for flash zfs) that could be the the filesystem for SDXC cards? Two main point for this are already there Sun is a member of SD Card Association and the code writting smart on a flash should be there as well with stuff of l2a

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-11 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Sun, Jan 11 at 5:00, Fabian Wörner wrote: >Wouldn't it be great if the opensolaris community creates a fs fzfs (for flash >zfs) that >could be the the filesystem for SDXC cards? Two main point for this are >already there >Sun is a member of SD Card Association and the code writting smart on

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-11 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Eric D. Mudama wrote: > > My impression is not that other OS's aren't interested in ZFS, they > are, it's that the licensing restrictions limit native support to > Solaris, BSD, and OS-X. Perhaps the philosophical issues of the "other OS's" (i.e. Linux) are more significant t

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-11 Thread Tom Bird
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Eric D. Mudama wrote: >> My impression is not that other OS's aren't interested in ZFS, they >> are, it's that the licensing restrictions limit native support to >> Solaris, BSD, and OS-X. > > Perhaps the philosophical issues of the "other OS's" (i.e. L

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-11 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:28:36 + Tom Bird wrote: > Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > > On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Eric D. Mudama wrote: > >> My impression is not that other OS's aren't interested in ZFS, they > >> are, it's that the licensing restrictions limit native support to > >> Solaris, BSD, and OS-X. >

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-11 Thread JZ
January 11, 2009 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS > On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:28:36 + > Tom Bird wrote: > >> Bob Friesenhahn wrote: >> > On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Eric D. Mudama wrote: >> >> My impression is not that other OS's aren

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-11 Thread Toby Thain
On 11-Jan-09, at 3:28 PM, Tom Bird wrote: > Bob Friesenhahn wrote: >> On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Eric D. Mudama wrote: >>> My impression is not that other OS's aren't interested in ZFS, they >>> are, it's that the licensing restrictions limit native support to >>> Solaris, BSD, and OS-X. >> >> Perhaps

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-11 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Toby Thain wrote: >> >> Nobody in their right mind is using Gentoo. > > Hmmm... a lot of seasoned sysadmins would disagree. A source based > distribution has some significant advantages; I would not be surprised if > that concept outlives binary packaging and its attendant d

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Casper . Dik
>My impression is not that other OS's aren't interested in ZFS, they >are, it's that the licensing restrictions limit native support to >Solaris, BSD, and OS-X. > >If you wanted native support in Windows or Linux, it would require a >significant effort from Sun. Why is that a problem for Window

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Eric D. Mudama" wrote: > My impression is not that other OS's aren't interested in ZFS, they > are, it's that the licensing restrictions limit native support to > Solaris, BSD, and OS-X. The BDF folks had some cons against the CDDL but after I had a lobger discussion with them, they understood

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Fabian Wörner
my post was not to start a discuss gpl<>cddl. It just an idea to promote ZFS and OPENSOLARIS If it was against anything than against exfat, nothing else!!! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolar

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
Fabian Wörner wrote: > my post was not to start a discuss gpl<>cddl. > It just an idea to promote ZFS and OPENSOLARIS > If it was against anything than against exfat, nothing else!!! If you like to promoote ZFS, you need to understand why the party you like to promote it to does not already

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Carson Gaspar
Joerg Schilling wrote: > Fabian Wörner wrote: > >> my post was not to start a discuss gpl<>cddl. >> It just an idea to promote ZFS and OPENSOLARIS >> If it was against anything than against exfat, nothing else!!! > > If you like to promoote ZFS, you need to understand why the party you like

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Miles Nordin
> "tt" == Toby Thain writes: > "j" == JZ writes: > Nobody in their right mind is using Gentoo. tt> a lot of seasoned sysadmins would disagree. Gentoo makes sense for embedded projects. OpenWRT is arguably source-based too. but Gentoo is extremely clumsy to my view: I find

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Miles Nordin
> "js" == Joerg Schilling writes: js> A GPLd ZFS would however disallow to use it on *BSD and Mac OS js> X. and also Solaris. which is why ZFS would not be GPL'd that way. It'd be a choice of license. I think someone floated the same either/or license as a ``we'll see'' possibilit

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Richard Elling
Carson Gaspar wrote: > Joerg Schilling wrote: > >> Fabian Wörner wrote: >> >> >>> my post was not to start a discuss gpl<>cddl. >>> It just an idea to promote ZFS and OPENSOLARIS >>> If it was against anything than against exfat, nothing else!!! >>> >> If you like to promoote ZF

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Richard Elling wrote: > Carson Gaspar wrote: > >> Joerg Schilling wrote: >> >> >>> Fabian Wörner wrote: >>> >>> >>> my post was not to start a discuss gpl<>cddl. It just an idea to promote ZFS and OPENSOLARIS If it was against anything than against exfat,

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Miles Nordin wrote: > > but yeah, that OTness aside, Sun's deliberately crafting their brand > new CDDL license to be incompatible with the GPL isn't exactly in the > spirit of free software. BSD is also not in the GPL camp, but the > mainstream of BSD has altered their licens

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-13 Thread Roch Bourbonnais
Le 12 janv. 09 à 17:39, Carson Gaspar a écrit : > Joerg Schilling wrote: >> Fabian Wörner wrote: >> >>> my post was not to start a discuss gpl<>cddl. >>> It just an idea to promote ZFS and OPENSOLARIS >>> If it was against anything than against exfat, nothing else!!! >> >> If you like to pro

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-14 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Roch Bourbonnais wrote: > Le 12 janv. 09 à 17:39, Carson Gaspar a écrit : > > >> Joerg Schilling wrote: >> >>> Fabian Wörner wrote: >>> >>> my post was not to start a discuss gpl<>cddl. It just an idea to promote ZFS and OPENSOLARIS If it was against anything than

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Ridd
On 14 Jan 2009, at 10:01, Andrew Gabriel wrote: > DOS/FAT filesystem implementations in appliances can be found in less > than 8K code and data size (mostly that's code). Limited functionality > implementations can be smaller than 1kB size. Just for the sake of comparison, how big is the limited

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-15 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Mon, Jan 12 at 10:00, casper@sun.com wrote: >>My impression is not that other OS's aren't interested in ZFS, they >>are, it's that the licensing restrictions limit native support to >>Solaris, BSD, and OS-X. >> >>If you wanted native support in Windows or Linux, it would require a >>signific