Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays

2007-08-03 Thread Richard Elling
Alderman, Sean wrote: > I'd have a nice 400GB (800GB actual) pool. I'd still have my hard RAID 1+0, > but now a single checksum error on any one LUN would render the entire file > system unusable. No, this is not a correct assumption. The "panic when ZFS sees an error" case is for *writes* w

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays

2007-08-03 Thread Wade . Stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/03/2007 01:35:04 PM: > The OP here is posting the "Z"illion dollar question ... And > apologies in advance for the verbal diarrhea. > > Most of the Enterprise Level systems people here (my company) look > at ZFS and say, "Wow that's really cool...but..." What co

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays

2007-08-03 Thread Mario Goebbels
>>> What other ZFS features depend on ZFS RAID ? >> Mostly the self-healing stuff.. But if it's not zfs-redundant and a >> device experiences write errors, the machine will currently panic. > > Wow, this is certainly worse than the current VxVM/VxFS > implementation. At least there I get I/O err

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays

2007-08-03 Thread Alderman, Sean
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tomas Ögren Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 11:30 AM To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays On 03 August, 2007 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent me these 1,6K bytes: > When using an ar

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays

2007-08-03 Thread John Martinez
On Aug 3, 2007, at 8:29 AM, Tomas Ögren wrote: > On 03 August, 2007 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent me these 1,6K bytes: > >> When using an array's RAID schemes, what higher level ZFS >> features are not in play when ZFS Stripes/Concats are used without >> using >> any ZFS RaidZ or mirrors? >> >> I u

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays

2007-08-03 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 03 August, 2007 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent me these 1,6K bytes: > When using an array's RAID schemes, what higher level ZFS > features are not in play when ZFS Stripes/Concats are used without using > any ZFS RaidZ or mirrors? > > I understand from > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/

[zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays

2007-08-03 Thread John . Karwoski
When using an array's RAID schemes, what higher level ZFS features are not in play when ZFS Stripes/Concats are used without using any ZFS  RaidZ or mirrors? I understand from http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/faq/#hardwareraid that ZFS can only report errors but not correct them.