Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-19 Thread Ian Collins
On 09/19/12 02:38 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: On 09/18/2012 04:31 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: Can I actually have a year's worth of snapshots in zfs without too much performance degradation? Each additional dataset (not sure about snapshots, though) increases boot times slightly, however, I've seen

[zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Eugen Leitl
I'm currently thinking about rolling a variant of http://www.napp-it.org/napp-it/all-in-one/index_en.html with remote backup (via snapshot and send) to 2-3 other (HP N40L-based) zfs boxes for production in our organisation. The systems themselves would be either Dell or Supermicro (latter with

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 09/18/2012 04:31 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: I'm currently thinking about rolling a variant of http://www.napp-it.org/napp-it/all-in-one/index_en.html with remote backup (via snapshot and send) to 2-3 other (HP N40L-based) zfs boxes for production in our organisation. The systems

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Dan Swartzendruber
On 9/18/2012 10:31 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: I'm currently thinking about rolling a variant of http://www.napp-it.org/napp-it/all-in-one/index_en.html with remote backup (via snapshot and send) to 2-3 other (HP N40L-based) zfs boxes for production in our organisation. The systems themselves would

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Christopher Hearn
On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: On 9/18/2012 10:31 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: I'm currently thinking about rolling a variant of http://www.napp-it.org/napp-it/all-in-one/index_en.html with remote backup (via snapshot and send) to 2-3 other (HP N40L-based) zfs boxes

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Hearn, Christopher
On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: On 9/18/2012 10:31 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: I'm currently thinking about rolling a variant of http://www.napp-it.org/napp-it/all-in-one/index_en.html with remote backup (via snapshot and send) to 2-3 other (HP N40L-based) zfs boxes for

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Erik Ableson
On 18 sept. 2012, at 16:40, Dan Swartzendruber dswa...@druber.com wrote: On 9/18/2012 10:31 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: I'm currently thinking about rolling a variant of http://www.napp-it.org/napp-it/all-in-one/index_en.html with remote backup (via snapshot and send) to 2-3 other (HP

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Richard Elling
On Sep 18, 2012, at 7:31 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: Can I actually have a year's worth of snapshots in zfs without too much performance degradation? I've got 6 years of snapshots with no degradation :-) In general, there is not a direct correlation between snapshot count and

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Edmund White
I've installed a good number of all-in-one ZFS solutions, mostly based around NexentaStor and VMWare ESXi on HP ProLiant hardware. An example of this is documented on Server Fault at: http://serverfault.com/a/398579/13325 -- Edmund White ewwh...@mac.com On 9/18/12 10:31 AM, Eugen Leitl

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Richard Elling wrote: On Sep 18, 2012, at 7:31 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org mailto:eu...@leitl.org wrote: Can I actually have a year's worth of snapshots in zfs without too much performance degradation? I've got 6 years of snapshots with no degradation :-) $ zfs list -t snapshot -r

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, Erik Ableson wrote: The bigger issue you'll run into will be data sizing as a year's worth of snapshot basically means that you're keeping a journal of every single write that's occurred over the year. If you are running The above is not a correct statement. The

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Tim Cook
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, Erik Ableson wrote: The bigger issue you'll run into will be data sizing as a year's worth of snapshot basically means that you're keeping a journal of every single write that's

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 05:30:56PM +0200, Erik Ableson wrote: If you're running ESXi with a vSphere license, I'd recommend looking at VDR (free with the vCenter license) for backing up the VMs to the little HPs since you get compressed and deduplicated backups that will minimize the