Re: [zfs-discuss] internal backup power supplies?

2010-01-12 Thread Daniel Carosone
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:10:37PM -0800, Lutz Schumann wrote: > p.s. While writing this I'm thinking if a-card handles this case well ? ... > maybe not. apart from the fact that they seem to be hard to source, this is a big question about this interesting device for me too. I hope so, since it

Re: [zfs-discuss] internal backup power supplies?

2010-01-11 Thread Lutz Schumann
Actually for the ZIL you may use the a-card (memory sata disk + bbu + compact flash write out). For the data disks there is no solution yet - would be nice. However I prefer the "supercapacitor on disk" method. Why ? because the recharge logic is chellenging. There needs to be communication

Re: [zfs-discuss] internal backup power supplies?

2010-01-11 Thread Daniel Carosone
> [google server with batteries] These are cool, and a clever rethink of the typical data centre power supply paradigm. They keep the server running, until either a generator is started or a graceful shutdown can be done. Just to be clear, I'm talking about something much smaller, that provides

Re: [zfs-discuss] internal backup power supplies?

2010-01-11 Thread David Magda
On Jan 11, 2010, at 19:00, Toby Thain wrote: On 11-Jan-10, at 5:59 PM, Daniel Carosone wrote: Does anyone know of such a device being made and sold? Feel like designing and marketing one, or publising the design? FWIW I think Google server farm uses something like this. It looks slightly

Re: [zfs-discuss] internal backup power supplies?

2010-01-11 Thread Toby Thain
On 11-Jan-10, at 5:59 PM, Daniel Carosone wrote: With all the recent discussion of SSD's that lack suitable power-failure cache protection, surely there's an opportunity for a separate modular solution? I know there used to be (years and years ago) small internal UPS's that fit in a few 5.25"

[zfs-discuss] internal backup power supplies?

2010-01-11 Thread Daniel Carosone
With all the recent discussion of SSD's that lack suitable power-failure cache protection, surely there's an opportunity for a separate modular solution? I know there used to be (years and years ago) small internal UPS's that fit in a few 5.25" drive bays. They were designed to power the motherbo