Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on SunFire X2100M2 with hybrid pools

2012-11-29 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jim Klimov this is the part I am not certain about - it is roughly as cheap to READ the gzip-9 datasets as it is to read lzjb (in terms of CPU decompression). Nope. I know LZJB is not LZO,

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on SunFire X2100M2 with hybrid pools

2012-11-28 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jim Klimov I really hope someone better versed in compression - like Saso - would chime in to say whether gzip-9 vs. lzjb (or lz4) sucks in terms of read-speeds from the pools. My HDD-based

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on SunFire X2100M2 with hybrid pools

2012-11-28 Thread Ian Collins
Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jim Klimov I really hope someone better versed in compression - like Saso - would chime in to say whether gzip-9 vs. lzjb (or lz4)

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on SunFire X2100M2 with hybrid pools

2012-11-28 Thread Jim Klimov
Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: There are very few situations where (gzip) option is better than the default lzjb. Well, for the most part my question regarded the slowness (or lack of) gzip DEcompression as compared to lz* algorithms. If there are files and

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on SunFire X2100M2 with hybrid pools

2012-11-27 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Eugen Leitl can I make e.g. LSI SAS3442E directly do SSD caching (it says something about CacheCade, but I'm not sure it's an OS-side driver thing), as it is supposed to boost IOPS?

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on SunFire X2100M2 with hybrid pools

2012-11-27 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:12:43PM +, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Eugen Leitl can I make e.g. LSI SAS3442E directly do SSD caching (it says

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on SunFire X2100M2 with hybrid pools

2012-11-27 Thread Jim Klimov
Performance-wise, I think you should go for mirrors/raid10, and separate the pools (i.e. rpool mirror on SSD and data mirror on HDDs). If you have 4 SSDs, you might mirror the other couple for zoneroots or some databases in datasets delegated into zones, for example. Don't use dedup. Carve out

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on SunFire X2100M2 with hybrid pools

2012-11-27 Thread Jim Klimov
Now that I thought of it some more, a follow-up is due on my advices: 1) While the best practices do(did) dictate to set up zoneroots in rpool, this is certainly not required - and I maintain lots of systems which store zones in separate data pools. This minimizes write-impact on rpools

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on SunFire X2100M2 with hybrid pools

2012-11-27 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: Now there are multiple configurations for this. Some using Linux (roof fs on a RAID10, /home on RAID 1) or zfs. Now zfs on Linux probably wouldn't do hybrid zfs pools (would it?) Sure it does. You can even use the whole disk

[zfs-discuss] zfs on SunFire X2100M2 with hybrid pools

2012-11-26 Thread Eugen Leitl
Dear internets, I've got an old SunFire X2100M2 with 6-8 GBytes ECC RAM, which I wanted to put into use with Linux, using the Linux VServer patch (an analogon to zones), and 2x 2 TByte nearline (WD RE4) drives. It occured to me that the 1U case had enough space to add some SSDs (e.g. 2-4 80