RE: [ZION] Ddouble-ddipped

Stephen Beecroft wrote: --- The good thing is that, according to Ms. Fletcher Stack and the accomplished Dr. Bennion, we "are an important subset of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints". Yippee! I feel so empowered! --- I'm not convinced that Peggy would express her feelings in qui

Re: [ZION] Full Text Library Access

At 04:01 PM 11/2/02, John W. Redelfs wrote: === Anytime I see something screech across a room and latch onto someones neck, and the guy screams and tries to get it off, I have to laugh, because what is that thing. A woman? --Ronn! :) I always knew

RE: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

Larry Jackson: >Scientific wild- _ _ _ guess. > >There are other meanings, as well, but that's the primary >one in most common use. Paul Osborne: Ha ha ha ah. I didn't think you had in you Larry. ___ Well, facts is facts, no? Besides, it's SNAFU that everyone usually gets wrong:

Re: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

>Scientific wild- _ _ _ guess. > >There are other meanings, as well, but that's the primary >one in most common use. Ha ha ha ah. I didn't think you had in you Larry. :-) Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign Up for Juno Platinum I

Re: [ZION] "Life Everlasting" Duane S. Crowther

At 03:17 PM 11/2/2002, you wrote: Hey Zion: Just wanting to know if anyone has read "Life Everlasting" by Crowther, and if so, what do you think. It was recommended to me by a friend who knows that since Tom died, I've been devouring the words of prophets and scriptures to learn all I can

Re: [ZION] "Life Everlasting" Duane S. Crowther

After much pondering, Valerie Nielsen Williams favored us with: Just wanting to know if anyone has read "Life Everlasting" by Crowther, and if so, what do you think. It was recommended to me by a friend who knows that since Tom died, I've been devouring the words of prophets and scriptures to le

RE: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

What is a SWAG? I don't recognize the acronymn. --JWR Scientific wild- _ _ _ guess. There are other meanings, as well, but that's the primary one in most common use. Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9

[ZION] "Life Everlasting" Duane S. Crowther

Hey Zion: Just wanting to know if anyone has read "Life Everlasting" by Crowther, and if so, what do you think. It was recommended to me by a friend who knows that since Tom died, I've been devouring the words of prophets and scriptures to learn all I can about the Plan of Salvation, the S

[ZION] Full Text Library Access

I am very pleased with something that our small town public library is doing. A couple of years ago, the state legislature authorized the purchase of Ebsco access for all public library patrons in the state. Ebsco is a huge database of newspaper stories, popular and scholarly periodical artic

Re: [ZION] Land of the free: for those of the right colour

After much pondering, Marc A. Schindler favored us with: Related news: we must be doing something right -- Pat Buchanan, who's always been one cannonball short of a secure station, calls us "Canucklestan" even though it's the US that's the haven for terrorists. We take great pride in having drawn

[ZION] Land of the free: for those of the right colour

haven for terrorists. We take great pride in having drawn his fire. Like the class idiot criticizing your geometry theorem. <<http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/front/RTGAM/20021102/wxmist1102/Front/homeBN/breakingnews>> -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada --

[ZION] James Ossuary develops crack in shipping

I told them not to use Canada Post... <> -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland “The first duty of a university is to teach wisdom, not a trade;

Re: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

At 12:42 PM, Saturday, 11/2/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: The 1P don't say. It doesn't appear to be a concern for them. That could be why all the sciences are represented in the curriculum at BYU (in fact, BYU's evolutionary biologists are leading "cladists," a sub-specialty in the field). Also,

Re: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

At 12:40 PM, Saturday, 11/2/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: That would be appropriate for a technical text, but Diamond's book was meant as an introduction for a lay audience. The scope of what he discusses is too broad for this kind of approach -- there would simply be too many footnotes. That's

Re: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

At 12:37 PM, Saturday, 11/2/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: I don't believe it is merely a (secular) history book -- I think it's more profound than that. If it's truly a secular history of "God's dealings [with] man since the first man down to the time of Moses" why a) does it show signs of having

Re: [ZION] Ddouble-ddipped

That used to be the purpose of foyers in the good old days. Stephen Beecroft wrote: > Quite obviously, we here on Zion also constitute "double-dippers", > seeing as how the Church can't manage to provide us with a safe, warm, > nurturing environment in which to shoot the breeze, argue obscure > d

Re: [ZION] Reconstructing the Clinton legacy

Sounds like John needs to resurrection Zion-2. Jim Cobabe wrote: > News article reports that the is U.S. withdrawing support for the UN > "Reproductive Health" agreement. The agreement was apparently largely a > committment from the Clinton presidency for the US to fund "women's > choice" clinic

RE: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

-Marc- > Okay, I'll take that. Let me rephrase my question: Jim, care > to back *any* of this up with any actual facts? I already wrote, then deleted, a response to this, deciding that Jim can take care of himself. But I've decided not to let good sense stand in the way, so I'll ask anyway: Exac

Re: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

I don't believe it is merely a (secular) history book -- I think it's more profound than that. If it's truly a secular history of "God's dealings [with] man since the first man down to the time of Moses" why a) does it show signs of having been redacted by later editors; and b) why doesn't it tell

Re: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

That would be appropriate for a technical text, but Diamond's book was meant as an introduction for a lay audience. The scope of what he discusses is too broad for this kind of approach -- there would simply be too many footnotes. That's why authors who find themselves in this situation give recomm

Re: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

The 1P don't say. It doesn't appear to be a concern for them. That could be why all the sciences are represented in the curriculum at BYU (in fact, BYU's evolutionary biologists are leading "cladists," a sub-specialty in the field). Also, I don't seem to see "all that disagreement" that you talk ab

Re: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

Actually, Dan asked that question. I'd like to know, too. "John W. Redelfs" wrote: > At 08:19 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: > >And hence the humble "SWAG" is born... > > What is a SWAG? I don't recognize the acronymn. --JWR > > -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canad

Re: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

Okay, I'll take that. Let me rephrase my question: Jim, care to back *any* of this up with any actual facts? "John W. Redelfs" wrote: > At 08:08 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: > >Jim, care to back *any* of this up with any actual facts, rather than just > >a rant? > > You are misus

Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

I can only say "amen". I'm also upset that I have to pay GST on things I buy from the States. I think a US plant would rather set up in a maquiladora in Ciudad Juarez, for instance, where environmental and labour laws are primitive, than allow those same workers into an Arizona or Texas plant. It's

RE: [ZION] Ddouble-ddipped

Quite obviously, we here on Zion also constitute "double-dippers", seeing as how the Church can't manage to provide us with a safe, warm, nurturing environment in which to shoot the breeze, argue obscure doctrinal points, and laugh at Canadians. The good thing is that, according to Ms. Fletcher

[ZION] Ddouble-ddipped

http://www.sltrib.com/11022002/saturday/12782.htm Interesting article about a science study by a "social anthropologist", refers to mormons distracted by gospel hobbies as "double dippers". "Whatever their secondary involvement, these double dippers are motivated by a sense of deprivation: th

[ZION] Reconstructing the Clinton legacy

News article reports that the is U.S. withdrawing support for the UN "Reproductive Health" agreement. The agreement was apparently largely a committment from the Clinton presidency for the US to fund "women's choice" clinics in third-world countries. "http://www.sltrib.com/11022002/nation_w

RE: [ZION] Imagine that!

KIRBY: E-mail From Nigeria -- I'm Rich! Saturday, November 2, 2002 Read me while you can because I am going to be filthy rich soon. When it happens I will not be writing this column anymore. The manner of acquiring my new wealth need not remain a secret. You could do it too, if

Re: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

At 08:37 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: Then perhaps you should follow the counsel of the brethren and learn how: I quote again, "Leave geology, biology, archaeology, and anthropology, no one of which has to do with the salvation of the souls of mankind, to scientific research".

Re: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

At 08:37 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: > At 01:56 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: > > >You're asking a question Diamond doesn't attempt to answer, and there's no > >easy way > >to answer this. > > I don't believe I suggested that Diamond was supposed to answer my > qu

Re: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

At 08:37 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: > And there isn't even a proper bibliography, just some suggested "additional reading." Define "proper bibliography." John, if you don't like the book, don't finish it. But spare us your suffering. A proper bibliography is a list of works

Re: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

At 08:19 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: And hence the humble "SWAG" is born... What is a SWAG? I don't recognize the acronymn. --JWR / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zio

Re: [ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

At 08:08 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: Jim, care to back *any* of this up with any actual facts, rather than just a rant? You are misusing the word rant. Jim's post was not bombastic or excited enough to qualify as rant: 1 : to talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner 2

Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

At 08:07 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: I'm sorry to hear that. It can be very disruptive and discouraging, and I wish you all the best in finding something you enjoy as soon as possible. And seriously, if you're a high-tech worker or a professional in various other departments, a