Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and the Fact that Most

2003-07-17 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 07:52 AM 7/13/2003 -0400, you wrote: Paul Osborne wrote to our BLT: I'm a bigger jerk than you and that's pretty bad! ;-) Grampa Bill comments: But Till lives in a deeper (and more humble) hole than either of you. Yes, yes, and his floor is so covered

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and the Fact that Most

2003-07-17 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 10:03 AM 7/13/2003 -0600, Cousin St George wrote: One of the points that ought to worry you that is not on your list is the idea that you will be tried to the limit of your ability. Just like Abraham was tested so you will be tested - differently but as severe. Just as others that we can

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and the Fact that Most

2003-07-17 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 10:03 AM 7/13/2003 -0600, Cousin St George wrote: One of the points that ought to worry you that is not on your list is the idea that you will be tried to the limit of your ability. Just like Abraham was tested so you will be tested - differently but as severe. Just as others that we can

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and ...

2003-07-17 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 01:55 PM 7/13/2003 -0500, St Stacy wrote: What would such a test consist of? Physical endurance? Brainwashing? Torture or something less diabolical such as integrity? What about martyrdom? Can we have any stories? Till suspects that those what has them would rather not tell them.

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and ...

2003-07-17 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 07:16 AM 7/17/03 -0400, Elmer L. Fairbank wrote: At 01:55 PM 7/13/2003 -0500, St Stacy wrote: What would such a test consist of? Physical endurance? Brainwashing? Torture or something less diabolical such as integrity? What about martyrdom? Can we have any stories? I wonder if for many

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and ...

2003-07-17 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 09:22 PM 7/13/2003 -0800, BLT wrote: Still, the only thing that keeps me going is the fact that it won't last forever. Death will bring some relief when it finally comes. All I have to do is endure to the end. Relief from what, John?Us We're here to take care of eachother. I

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and ...

2003-07-17 Thread Stacy Smith
I don't buy that completely as that could be the test of any age or era. Stacy. At 06:28 AM 07/17/2003 -0500, you wrote: At 07:16 AM 7/17/03 -0400, Elmer L. Fairbank wrote: At 01:55 PM 7/13/2003 -0500, St Stacy wrote: What would such a test consist of? Physical endurance? Brainwashing?

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and ...

2003-07-17 Thread Bill Johnson
I don't think one will know for sure that their election has been made sure until one has died. As long as we live and breathe, we are sinning. A scripture that says something to the effect of: All has sinned and has come short of the glory of God is very true. It comes down to the thought

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and ...

2003-07-17 Thread George Cobabe
I understand you concerns Bill, for as you I have also sinned and stand still condemned in this world - until the atonement takes action in my life at least. In fact, however, there is an ordinance of confirming that you have attained this status. It used to be more common than now and is only

Re: [ZION] Magazine Subscriptions

2003-07-17 Thread John W. Redelfs
Chet Cox wrote: We used to subscribe to *US News World Report* but the 'net has taken the place of our news source(s). Currently, we subscribe to nothing, because we've moved four times this year and will move at least twice more before the year's over. Our *Ensign* and *Comics Buyers'

Re: [ZION] Gods and Generals

2003-07-17 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
John W. Redelfs wrote: Perhaps the thing that most detracted from my enjoyment of the film was the Confederate bias. Of course Jackson was a southerner, so I guess I couldn't expect anything else. But I am most definitely a Yankee when it comes to my thinking about the Civil War. I don't

Re: [ZION] Magazine Subscriptions

2003-07-17 Thread Chet Cox
*Alter-Ego* was the fanzine which created comics fandom, back in 1960. There had been a few 'zines before -- one as far back as the 1930s -- but Dr. Jerry Bails Roy Thomas (mainly Jerry) really got the ball rolling with A/E. Jerry Roy were instrumental in the revival of the Justice Society

Re: [ZION] Magazine Subscriptions

2003-07-17 Thread John A. English, n/OEF
I get Soujourners, St Anthony Messenger, America,the Catholic Herald and Radical Grace. My favorite is Radical Grace. Pax et bonum, John A. English, n/OEF - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: RE: [ZION]