Re: [ZION] Antipathy for Family Members

2003-07-03 Thread mormonyoyoman
Since I'm using library comptuer time and am on the road, I must keep this short. (I wanted so much to reply to some wonderful posts from Heidi and John!) The Book of Mormon indicates that charity is not just something we cultivate, but something which must start as a gift from Heavenly Fa

Re: [ZION] The September Six Today

2003-08-19 Thread mormonyoyoman
Ick. I mean - really - ICK! Guess we should be glad they've found acceptance somewhere -- I wouldn't think it would be easy for someone who betrays their spouse and abandons their family to find acceptance. (Oh wait! That's if a HUSBAND betrays their WIFE and abandons their family. I forgo

[ZION] What If They're Wrong? (was: The September Six Today

2003-08-20 Thread mormonyoyoman
Something which I've settled in my mind and thought I had no problem with is the same problem that these folks - and most of us at one time or another - have had: What about the times when our priesthood leaders are incorrect? Unlike many denominations, the Church of Jesus Christ has never ins

RE: [ZION] Temple Defilement

2003-08-22 Thread mormonyoyoman
This is what happened in Manti, as we were told by some Manti folks. Most of the time, entering the temple unworthily is considered significantly different from defiling the temple (a premeditated act which leaves physical evidence). Entering the temple unworthily defiles the person, not the

Re: [ZION] Witnessing Excommunications by Churches

2003-08-22 Thread mormonyoyoman
Stacy, in a past calling I had to attend church disciplinary councils and was present for a disfellowship (not excommunication) procedure. (To make up for it, I was lucky enough to attend several church disciplinary councils wherein the person was "re-communicated" I guess you'd call it. Thei

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-27 Thread mormonyoyoman
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I will have to say that I think JWR's email was woefully lacking in >details >on the new baby...maybe it's a female thing, but...is this a grandson >or a >granddaughter? What is the baby's name? >Heidi the fair There was an original e-mail from JWR? Never saw it.

Re: [ZION] Congratulations, John and Another Note About Mail

2003-09-27 Thread mormonyoyoman
It's entirely possible, Stacy. However, I had the same trouble with Topica (with Zion and with other lists) when I had my MSN account and my MStar account. *jeep! ~~Chet "If ya thinks ya is right, ya deserfs credit - even if ya is wrong." Gus Segar via Popeye -- Stacy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-30 Thread mormonyoyoman
Either Brother Jon is trying to make me paranoid, or there are a LOT of Zion posts that haven't made their way to my laptop. WHAT discussion about chocolate??? *jeep! ~~Chet "If ya thinks ya is right, ya deserfs credit - even if ya is wrong." Gus Segar via Popeye -- Jon Spencer <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-30 Thread mormonyoyoman
That IS a nice thought (even for a diabetic). And, nope, I didn't get that post. And it is strange how far off-topic we got. Who knows where it will lead this time? (Does anyone else have this problem -- beginning sentences with conjunctions? I never had this habit until after studying the

Re: [ZION] Women working in the temple (was feminists)

2003-10-05 Thread mormonyoyoman
-- Valerie Nielsen Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This IS the current way it works. My sister and her husband have been temple workers for years. They have 6 children. About 3 or 4 years ago, President Hinckley said that women with children under 18 could not be temple workers. Chet a

Re: [ZION] Where have all the Mormon feminists gone?

2003-10-05 Thread mormonyoyoman
--Stacy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Isn't this speaking out against priesthood? Chet opines: Possibly. But the priesthood (not necessarily every male who holds the priesthood) has really broad shoulders and can take much more severe criticism than this. Me? I'll just hide my head und

[ZION] the Need for Speed

2003-10-08 Thread mormonyoyoman
It's Wednesday night at 9 pm and the phone rings. (You already know what's coming, don't you?) The bishopric (of our newest ward in Marysville, Michigan) just asked us to give talks on Sunday. Oh, and for Cherie to teach the Gossip Doctrine class. The topic(s)? (Of the talks, not of the GD c

Re: [ZION] the Need for Speed

2003-10-09 Thread mormonyoyoman
Your policy sounds really good to me, Bill, and I agree with it. I've never implemented it (and probably never will, since I love to blab) but I agree with it. One o' these days, I'll actually SAY that to a bishop and watch his shocked look. *jeep! ~~Chet (Almost as shocked a look as I get w

Re: [ZION] More Lists

2003-10-11 Thread mormonyoyoman
The DiabetesWorld list at Yahoo Groups generates 20 or 30 messages about twice a day. But we could easily get 50 to 100 posts a day on Zion. All you have to do is speak up for or against any particular candidate for any particular political office -- just as long as that particular candidate

Re: [ZION] Schwarzenegger

2003-10-11 Thread mormonyoyoman
I'm actually quite pleased with this. I think Arnold is one of the more intelligent and topical politicians that came out of the 20th century. So many of us were disappointed at his failed bid for mayor of Hootersville that this -- What's that? Arnold Shwarzenegger, not Arnold Ziffle? Never

Re: [ZION] Salvation

2003-10-13 Thread mormonyoyoman
Strangely, John, I was looking this up not that long ago. And I couldn't find anything which indicated the Lord's salvation was anything less than the best He has to offer. I wondered then if this is where John Taylor picked up his "the Kingdom of God or nothing" slogan. Anyone else find any

Re: [ZION] strengthening new converts

2003-10-24 Thread mormonyoyoman
For us, it was the constant attention. Almost every day and night, we had someone from the ward dropping by, helping us get acclimated to the new lifestyle, explaining the new jargon. It was the friends who decided to pick up our oldest daughter every morning at 5:30 for early morning seminar

Re: ATTN the listowner, was RE: [ZION] hi

2003-10-24 Thread mormonyoyoman
This is an manualresponder. I'll probably get fed up with this and cancel my Zion list membership and never see your message. The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Onl

Re: [ZION] Tell Heidi

2003-10-28 Thread mormonyoyoman
Heidi, you are doing something and wonderful. This is precisely how our family was "indoctrinated" into Mormon Life 101. It was difficult for our kids - you remember the age in which Having Friends was more important than breathing? For Cherie & me, the testimony came first and strong; the f

Re: [ZION] God is Dead

2004-03-03 Thread mormonyoyoman
There was a 1965 Times Magazine (not New York Times) which had a black cover of "Is God Dead?" Not quite the same title though. *jeep! ---Chet "If ya thinks ya is right, ya deserfs credit - even if ya is wrong." --Gus Segar via Popeye - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Scott" <[EMAI

Re: [ZION] God is Dead

2004-03-03 Thread mormonyoyoman
PM Subject: RE: [ZION] God is Dead > Do you mean TIME Magazine or NY Times Magazine? The latter is > definitely part of the NY Times.. > > RBS > > >-Original Message- > >From: mormonyoyoman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004

[ZION] Stewart is guilty

2004-03-07 Thread mormonyoyoman
While in St Louis, then in Joplin, Missouri this weekend, that's all we saw in the headlines: "STEWART IS GUILTY" "STEWART FOUND GUILTY" "STEWART: GUILTY" I told Cherie it was a shame, because I always liked him ever since seeing *It's a Wonderful Life* *jeep! ---Chet "If ya thinks ya is ri

Re: [ZION] Cause for rejoicing

2004-03-09 Thread mormonyoyoman
Heartfelt congratulations to Heidi! There are few things as satisfying as seeing one's family doing the celestial thing! *jeep! ---Chet "If ya thinks ya is right, ya deserfs credit - even if ya is wrong." --Gus Segar via Popeye //

Re: [ZION] General Conference Hopes

2004-03-10 Thread mormonyoyoman
Though the advocates of SSM (even the initials seem dirty) are, as you say, working together (showing a masterful example of co-operation which Protestant Christianity has rarely done) I think we can still hold to the old adage that any one person, plus the Lord, is a majority. However, I would no

Re: [ZION] test

2004-03-13 Thread mormonyoyoman
- Original Message - From: "Jonathan Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 7:01 PM Subject: [ZION] test > Please ignore... It's too late. Now what do I do? *jeep! --Chet

RE: [ZION] J. Reuben Clark

2004-03-15 Thread MormonYoYoMan
Steven, I can't tell you how much your posts of Elders Clark & Skousen helped me today. It's been a terrible year for us, and I'd completely hit bottom - went so far as to drive up to the Indy VA hospital and turn myself in as depressed and a clinical loser. Whap! - Here's a bottle of new med