Re: [ZION] Does America need to be destroyed

2002-11-22 Thread Stacy Smith
My only point: Is there any room for camouflage in war? It would seem more natural. Stacy. At 05:03 PM 11/22/2002 -0600, you wrote: The Taliban/Al Qaeda mark themselves in a different manner, because their customs are different. They show their beliefs through covering their women and keeping

[ZION] Does America need to be destroyed

2002-11-22 Thread Gary Smith
The Taliban/Al Qaeda mark themselves in a different manner, because their customs are different. They show their beliefs through covering their women and keeping them locked up. That is a mark one can see, just by observing their lifestyles. They also wear the clothing (turban, etc) of the larger I

Re: [ZION] Does America need to be destroyed

2002-11-22 Thread Stacy Smith
I ran across that passage in Alma recently and marveled. I thought to myself, "Why should this be, as the Taliban aren't known to have marked themselves, right?" At any rate, I was somewhat awed and wondered about the saying. I think I am storing up things to ponder in my heart. Stacy. At 1

Re: [ZION] Does America need to be destroyed

2002-11-21 Thread Steven Montgomery
Gary, Well I guess time will tell which one of us is more correct. I would respond in more detail but I just got back from surgery (Ouch! Where are my pain pills?) so I hope you'll forgive me for not responding in more detail. -- Steven Montgomery At 09:38 AM 11/21/2002, you wrote: Steven: I u

Re: [ZION] Does America need to be destroyed

2002-11-21 Thread Paul Osborne
Steven wrote: >I used to believe that the "mark of the beast" certainly referred to an >intrusive, all powerful government, which held its subjects in economic >bondage, by forcing them to submit to some kind of microchip implant or in >some other manner with the number of the beast. As I've stu

Re: [ZION] Does America need to be destroyed

2002-11-21 Thread Geoff FOWLER
>>> Gary favored us all with: >>> >There clearly is a symbolic level to the marks. But often there >are both physical and spiritual parts of a symbol. Babylon, for >example, is an actual city in antiquity. It also symbolically >represents the telestial world, built on greed and power. >Although

[ZION] Does America need to be destroyed

2002-11-21 Thread Gary Smith
Steven: I used to believe that the "mark of the beast" certainly referred to an intrusive, all powerful government, which held its subjects in economic bondage, by forcing them to submit to some kind of microchip implant or in some other manner with the number of the beast. As I've studied Revel

Re: [ZION] Does America need to be destroyed

2002-11-20 Thread Stacy Smith
That's my understanding, except, isn't that funny? That would constitute an empire. Stacy. At 12:20 PM 11/20/2002 -0700, you wrote: At 10:15 PM 11/19/2002, you wrote: Revelation mentions a world government, or rather a group of nations that act as one. It is affectionately referred to as "the

Re: [ZION] Does America need to be destroyed

2002-11-20 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 10:15 PM 11/19/2002, you wrote: Revelation mentions a world government, or rather a group of nations that act as one. It is affectionately referred to as "the Beast." Those who will not worship the Beast and have its number engraved on their hand/head, will not be able to buy/sell (economic pre

[ZION] Does America need to be destroyed

2002-11-19 Thread Gary Smith
Revelation mentions a world government, or rather a group of nations that act as one. It is affectionately referred to as "the Beast." Those who will not worship the Beast and have its number engraved on their hand/head, will not be able to buy/sell (economic pressure). this would fit in well with

Re: [ZION] Does America need to be destroyed in its current form?

2002-11-19 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 12:39 AM 11/19/02, Stacy Smith wrote: I vote for people, not parties. Ditto. Of course, sometimes the choice on the ballot seems to be between Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber . . . --Ronn! :) I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed that I would see the la

Re: [ZION] Does America Need To Be Destroyed As It Is In Its Current Form?

2002-11-18 Thread Stacy Smith
But when I look at the book of Daniel, it seems to me I remember that a world empire wasn't to be established again until Jesus comes. Stacy. At 07:25 PM 11/17/2002 -0600, you wrote: Well, I'm guessing that Canada will eventually evolve into one. ;-) Europe and Asia seem to be going into a

Re: [ZION] Does America need to be destroyed in its current form?

2002-11-18 Thread Stacy Smith
I vote for people, not parties. Stacy. At 07:21 PM 11/17/2002 -0600, you wrote: I believe the US government will fall eventually from bloat and corruption. It may be that an outside attack will help it fall, but only if the inside is rotten. I don't have a problem with a state having an active

[ZION] Does America Need To Be Destroyed As It Is In Its Current Form?

2002-11-17 Thread Gary Smith
Well, I'm guessing that Canada will eventually evolve into one. ;-) Europe and Asia seem to be going into a globalization realm, so I think their nation states will eventually just be states/provinces in a giant world-nation. This I fear, though. It is too easy for a Hitler to step into p

[ZION] Does America need to be destroyed in its current form?

2002-11-17 Thread Gary Smith
I believe the US government will fall eventually from bloat and corruption. It may be that an outside attack will help it fall, but only if the inside is rotten. I don't have a problem with a state having an active government. Those who don't like it can always move. But a federal government shoul

Re: [ZION] Does America Need To Be Destroyed As It Is In Its Current Form?

2002-11-16 Thread Stacy Smith
I guess I'm referring to the next couple of years or so. Stacy. At 06:05 PM 11/16/2002 -0700, you wrote: To complicate the question, one might also ask "what is the future of nation-states in general"? // /// ZION LI

Re: [ZION] Does America Need To Be Destroyed As It Is In Its CurrentForm?

2002-11-16 Thread Marc A. Schindler
To complicate the question, one might also ask "what is the future of nation-states in general"? Stacy Smith wrote: > What is your current belief concerning the United States? Does it need to > be destroyed in its present form--White House, Congressional buildings, > Pentagon, etc., as Saddam Hu

[ZION] Does America Need To Be Destroyed As It Is In Its Current Form?

2002-11-16 Thread Stacy Smith
What is your current belief concerning the United States? Does it need to be destroyed in its present form--White House, Congressional buildings, Pentagon, etc., as Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden think or should it remain with its current governmental structural architecture? I know that