Re: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-01 Thread Jon Spencer
Do they actually have a government? :-( My understanding is that this was OK'ed (at a minimum) by the IC gov't. I know a person from this country, and he says it is absolutely lovely! I hope they don't turn it into another Beirut. Jon Mark Gregson opined: > > How is it okay for France and t

Re: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-01 Thread John W. Redelfs
At 11:10 PM 10/1/02 +0800 Mark Gregson favored us with: >How is it okay for France and the United States to send troops into the Ivory Coast? >Did the government of the Ivory Coast invite them? If so, I've never heard it >discussed on any news report. Marc? Some nations can go anywhere they

Re: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-01 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Yes, they were invited in by the government. What's happening is that, in common with most of the countries in West Africa (notably Nigeria, but also Benin, Togo, Ghana ) Cote d'Ivoire (aka Ivory Coast) is comprised of five geographic regions: a coastal region, often deltas of rivers, like sout

Re: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-01 Thread Mark Gregson
> The legal, or recognized, government, based in Yamoussoukro (an artificial > capital like Ottawa, Canberra and Ajuba -- the biggest city is Abidjan, on the >coast), officially asked for French and US help. Okay, if you say so. But none of your links gave any indication that the Ivory C

Re: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-01 Thread Dan R Allen
> The legal, or recognized, government, based in Yamoussoukro (an artificial > capital like Ottawa, Canberra and Ajuba -- the biggest city is Abidjan, on the coast), officially asked for French and US help. Mark: Okay, if you say so. But none of your links gave any indication that the Ivory

Re: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-01 Thread Jon Spencer
Call their embassy in D.C. John's not worried about it because he assumes the US is meddling. Marc and I already know, but didn't care enough to save the source of the info. No one else apparently is worried about it, being more concerned about the machinations going on in NJ to subvert the law

Re: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-01 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Mark Gregson wrote: > > > The legal, or recognized, government, based in Yamoussoukro (an artificial > > capital like Ottawa, Canberra and Ajuba -- the biggest city is Abidjan, on the >coast), officially asked for French and US help. > > Okay, if you say so. But none of your links gave any i

RE: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-01 Thread Larry Jackson
Mark Gregson: How is it okay for France and the United States to send troops into the Ivory Coast? Did the government of the Ivory Coast invite them? If so, I've never heard it discussed on any news report. Marc? John Redelfs: Some nations can go anywhere they please and do whatever they

RE: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-01 Thread John W. Redelfs
At 09:12 PM 10/1/02 + Larry Jackson favored us with: >I think in this case it might be more that the US is in the habit >of protecting its citizens wherever they are in the world, and >some young citizens were in danger. So the US went to the Ivory >Coast to get them. The French helped, I

Re: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-01 Thread Marc A. Schindler
> In fact it was part of what was known as French Equatorial Africa, which was a >regional common market based on the CFA Franc (Communauté des francs afriques). Not that it's a big deal, but when you do things from memory you make mistakes. at least, I do. Côte d'Ivoire wasn't part of FEA, alt

Re: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-01 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Dan R Allen wrote: > > The legal, or recognized, government, based in Yamoussoukro (an > artificial > > capital like Ottawa, Canberra and Ajuba -- the biggest city is Abidjan, > on the coast), officially asked for French and US help. > > Mark: Ironically, he asked the same thing. Sorry if it

Re: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-01 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Larry Jackson wrote: > Mark Gregson: > > How is it okay for France and the United States to send troops > into the Ivory Coast? Did the government of the Ivory Coast > invite them? If so, I've never heard it discussed on any news > report. Marc? > > John Redelfs: > > Some nations can go anyw

Re: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-01 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Here's the website of their embassy in Ottawa: http://www.isa-africa.com/AmbCiCa/ (you can probably find their embassy's website in Washington via www.uncle-sam.com) The Canadian site was pretty sparse -- just information about the country, no news. So I tried Canadian Foreign Affairs -- their l

RE: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-02 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 14:39 10/1/2002 -0800, BLT wrote: >At 09:12 PM 10/1/02 + Larry Jackson favored us with: > >I think in this case it might be more that the US is in the habit > >of protecting its citizens wherever they are in the world, and > >some young citizens were in danger. So the US went to the Ivory

Re: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-02 Thread Mark Gregson
> Sorry, I thought I made that clear. The French government has the responsibility for >Cote d'Ivoire's military defence. Yam'o didn't have to ask for help, it would have >been automatic. Okay, but how did the US get in? In another post you mentioned international law. Are you saying th

Re: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-02 Thread Marc A. Schindler
In India they get along *relatively well*. Most of the problems there are actually instigated by Hindu nationalists, not Muslims. Muslims are a minority in India, but given India's size it actually works out that it's the world's largest Muslim country, which is kind of weird. Let's see -- Ind

Re: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-02 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Mark Gregson wrote: > > > Sorry, I thought I made that clear. The French government has the responsibility >for Cote d'Ivoire's military defence. Yam'o didn't have to ask for help, it would >have been automatic. > > Okay, but how did the US get in? In another post you mentioned international

Re: Re: [ZION] Ivory Coast - who goes?

2002-10-02 Thread Grampa Bill
> From: "Marc A. Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Culturally speaking, the further north you go the more Moslems there are. Bouaké, the main city in > northern Cote d'Ivoire is in an area with a lot of Muslims, and fundamentalists >there are trying to foment a secessionist revolt. ==