[Jens Vagelpohl ]
> ... just to check if the list is broken as Martin Aspeli seems to believe.
A _possible_ reason for believing that: ZODB-dev is configured to
auto-reject messages sent by non-subscribers. About once a month I
find a msg among the 100s (sometimes 1000s) of rejections sent by
so
[Nitro]
> ...
> I wonder if _commit is really *that* slow
Six years ago I timed factor-of-100 speed differences due to using MS
_commit() on WinXP at the time:
https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zodb-dev/2004-July/007720.html
> or if there's another (faster) function which can be called...
No
[Jim Fulton]
>> I need to review the changes before the release. I'll probably reject the
>> repozo change without an automated test.
[Chris Withers]\
> Are you serious? You'd rather have a broken tool than one that isn't
> broken on the basis that the existing tests aren't part of the test
> suit
[Tres Seaver]
> Does anybody have evidence or belief that the "probabalistic" part of
> the '--quick' optoin (as of ZODB 3.2.8, if it matters) is likely to
> guess wrong on a setup where incremental backups are run frequently?
Last time I did a repozo bug hunt (years ago), I wrote a stress test
th
[Nikhil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
Testing of ZEO is hanging in Python2.5. When i traced i think it is
failing to connect and is attempting to reconnect continously in client.py.
Does this happen due to changes in socket module or due to in
threading module ?
FWIW, when I looked at this about a year
[nikhil n]
ZODB shows an error when tested with
python2.5.(http://zope3.pastey.net/52960)
I think Python
2.5 unified long and normal integer and this caused the error.
Is it enough that we add a renormalizer in testrunner.py?
Please see my reply on the zope3-dev list:
http://mail.zope.org/pip
[Chris Spencer]
A couple questions. Does ZODB support classes using __slots__?
[Jim Fulton]
Much to my surprise, it seems to. I just tried it and it worked just
fine. :)
FYI, this is intentional :-), and was part of the changes to make ZODB
play nicely with Python's new-style classes. It wa
[Tim Peters]
...
In any case, yes, the intent is that a new transaction object is used
for each transaction; but, no, seeing the same memory address does not
mean that isn't happening.
[Andreas Jung]
I think you are right (as always).
Luckily for everyone, I'll die someday ;-)
T
[Andreas Jung]
I encountered the following strange behavior with Zope 2.8.8.
I couldn't find "a problem" in the following. Are you having a
problem, or just asking a question?
The following code is used to integrate SQLAlchemy with
Zope. A registered utility subclassing ZopeBaseWrapper provi
[Alan Runyan]
+1 for removing versions. they have been considered "bad practice" for
over 3 years.
I believe 100% its ok to remove them.
Jim "formally announce[d] the intention to deprecate versions in both
Zope and ZODB" nearly 3 years ago, here:
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/20
[Paul Winkler]
...
If I understand this stuff correctly, the code in question on a
filesystem that *doesn't* have the sparse file optimization would
equate to "write N null bytes to this file as fast as possible."
True?
[Dieter Maurer]
Posix defines the semantics.
I have not looked it up, but
[Paul Winkler]
Our experiments suggest that ext2, ext3,
and reiserfs optimize for sparse files so there is no such guarantee.
AFAICT from some quick googling and wikipediaing, the same is true
for NTFS, XFS, JFS, ZFS. I suspect we've accounted for the majority
of the production Zope installations
[Tim Peters]
The ZEO client cache is stored in a fixed-size disk file. When a ZEO
client needs to create this file for the first time, it's trying to
ensure there's enough space on disk for it at the start, and reserve
that disk space then, rather than risk dying with a "no space
[Paul Winkler]
Can somebody explain to me the intent of this dance?
(from ZEO/cache.py):
The ZEO client cache is stored in a fixed-size disk file. When a ZEO
client needs to create this file for the first time, it's trying to
ensure there's enough space on disk for it at the start, and reserve
[Andreas Jung]
I have the following script to emulate a long running writing ZEO client
by writing 100MB to a page template:
import transaction
pt = app.foo
while 1:
data = '*'*1
T = transaction.begin()
pt.pt_edit(data, 'text/html')
T.commit()
print 'done'
This scri
[Chris Withers]
...
>>> s = transaction.savepoint()
>>> transaction.commit(1)
>>> s.rollback()
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in ?
File
"lib/python/transaction/_transaction.py", line 682, in rollback
raise interfaces.InvalidSavepointRollbackError
transacti
[Roché Compaan]
...
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zodb-dev/2004-July/007682.html
...
[Lennart Regebro]
I read this thread, and it seems to me that the ultimate solution
would be to have a setting for FSStorage, say "fsync-behaviour" with
the options of "single", "double", "none" or "interval"
...
|Jim Fulton]
Or consider object activation and deactivation. If a ghost is
shared among multiple threads, then __setstate__ could
be called from separate threads.
[Dieter Maurer]
But, why should this be a problem? They would install the same
state.
__setstate__ implementations are norma
[Christian Zagrodnick]
the DB.open method makes me wonder how it works (http://svn.zope.org/
ZODB/trunk/src/ZODB/DB.py?rev=69551&view=auto)
It locks with self._a() and calls self._connectionMap which locks
too. I cannot imagine a way this could possibly work.
Look at __init__():
x = th
...
[Chris Withers]
Yes, but using timestamps also means:
- we're dependent on the system clock being accurate for no good reason
[Jim Fulton]
I'm hoping that Jeremy or Tim will chime in, since we considered switching
to integers a while back.
Not much to say here. It's not true that corr
[Juan Pablo Giménez]
ok... but, if you delete Data.fs zope keep running, writing data into
Data.fs.tmp,
and don't log nothing about it. Sorry, but that's a bug...
Well, if it is, it's an operating system "bug": you normally don't
"delete" files on Unix-like systems, you merely "unlink" them,
[John Belmonte]
Just reporting that I got this spurious error with Python 2.4,
mod_python 3.2.10, and ZODB 3.6. I don't see what I could be doing
wrong at the app level to cause it.
SystemError: object at 0x2aaab031dc00 with type
BTrees._OOBTree.OOBucket not in the cache despite that we j
[David Binger]
That's interesting.
It appears that pickle protocol 2 chokes on inf.
[Tim Peters]
As above. BTW, why protocol 2 specifically? Protocols 1 and 2 treat
floats the same way.
[David]
I was thinking that the default protocol is 1, but I see
now that the default is 0.
St
[Chris S]
I'm having a problem storing infinity. The following code reproduces
the problem on w2k:
Purely a Python issue. Nothing about the behavior of infinities, NaNs
or signed zeroes is defined in Python before (the not yet released)
2.5. In 2.5, marshal and pickle (but only with protocol
[Chris S]
Is there a way to determine the nearest neighbors to a key in an
OOBTree? Something like:
>>> from BTrees.OOBTree import OOBTree
>>> tree = OOBTree(dict(a=1, b=2, c=3, d=4))
>>> tree.nearestLowItem('b')
('a',1)
>>> tree.nearestHighItem('b')
('c',3)
Efficient range searches are an imp
[various fsrefs.py failures in Zope 2.9.3]
[Tres]
I can reproduce this on the Zope 2.9 branch, but not on the 2.8 branch.
I'll note that it can be reproduced easily with a standalone ZODB 3.6 too:
"""
import ZODB
import ZODB.FileStorage
import transaction
from BTrees.OOBTree import OOBTree
s
[John S. Bellendir]
We are running Indico and using zodb. Users are receiving random errors like
the one below, any idea why this is happening?
I don't know what Indico is, but almost all the software in your
traceback is under a "MaKaC" subdirectory and isn't part of ZODB. The
ZODB message se
[Sidnei da Silva]
Does that mean that if someone didn't care about older python's in the
mix and were willing to register those shorter byte code extensions
for it's own Zope that person would likely see great improvements in
pickle size reduction, and that it would even improve ZEO transport by
[Dieter Maurer]
The newest pickle formats can also handle the class references
is bit more efficiently -- at least when a single transaction
modifies many objects of the same class.
[Chris Withers]
I know ZC was involved in the work to introduce these new pickle
formats, but are they actually
[Chris Withers]
Having problems with a storage/client combo that have started having
really bad performance problems since moving to Zope 2.9.3.
The client becomes totally unresponsive, to the point where I had to
install DeadlockDebugger to get any sense out of it :-/
Anyway, with that in plac
[Chris Withers]
File "C:\Zope\2.9.2\lib\python\ZEO\cache.py", line 151, in setLastTid
self.fc.settid(tid)
File "C:\Zope\2.9.2\lib\python\ZEO\cache.py", line 1060, in settid
raise ValueError("new last tid (%s) must be greater than "
ValueError: new last tid (244828509247418982) must be
[Pascal Peregrina]
I would like to know if there is a way to get the list of affected oids
knowing a transcaction id.
Nothing in the storage API reveals this.
If not, any idea about what would be the simplest way to do that for a
FileStorage ZODB?
Search the output of fsdump.py:
http://
[Tim]
No, I don't. The internal docs/comments are inconsistent on this
point. FileCache.settid() starts with
##
# Update our idea of the most recent tid.
[Chris]
Is this the most recently used or the most recently available?
(possible off-by-one error)
Neither, really. It's the la
[Chris Withers]
> Just been digging some more on this issue and found:
> http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zodb-checkins/2004-January/008063.html
>
> In every case I get this error, the tid's are equal, which suggests your
> notes about the <= potentially being bad were correct ;-)
>
> I'm low on fu h
BTW, this bit from ZODB news _may_ be relevant:
- (3.6a4) ZODB 3.6 introduces a change to the basic behavior of Persistent
objects in a particular end case. Before ZODB 3.6, setting
``obj._p_changed`` to a true value when ``obj`` was a ghost was ignored:
``obj`` remained a ghost, and gettin
[Chris Withers]
> I'm trying to fix this bug:
> http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/2062
>
> And I've narrowed it down to the following lines in History.py:
>
> ...
>
> If I comment out the base._p_changed=0 and base._p_deactivate() then
> history copy starts working again.
>
> ...
>
> Why was the
[Sidnei da Silva]
> It's a bad disk block situation. No blame on Zope. Getting a new
> disk.
That's refreshing -- most people would claim that ZODB destroyed their
disk ;-) These are the times you're glad you made backups, eh?
http://zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/FileStorageBackup
[Christian Theune]
>> Hmm. Sorry, but could you point out where the API is defined? I might
>> not have looked hard enough. I only found internals to exploit. :(
[Jim Fulton]
> I wish I could. I'm almost certain that Chris McDonough implemented
> one at PyCon 2005 and that Stephan Richter made us
[Martin Gfeller, attacks a ZEO hang on Windows]
> ...
Man, that sucks! Looks like a Python bug to me, probably specific to
Windows, and (as you discovered) introduced in Python 2.4, but
deliberately not backported to 2.3. I opened a Python tracker item
with a minimal hanging test case:
http
...
[Tim Peters]
>> OTOH, the larger the ZEO cache file, the longer it may take startup or
>> reconnection cache verification to complete, so there's always some
>> reason not to do the obvious thing <0.3 wink>.
[Jim Fulton]
> This is only a problem if:
>
>
[Paul Winkler]
> Heh. Well, I had a site that under some usage patterns would
> occasionally slow to a crawl with cache flips every few minutes. That
> was with the old default 20 MB cache size. I think I left it at
> 500 MB or so and that site's been fine since. But the performance
> demands wer
[Tim Peters]
>> That's an example: the post-MVCC ZEO cache is a single file, and
>> there are no cache flips; flips are unique to the pre-MVCC two-file
>> ZEO cache design.
[Paul Winkler]
> Interesting. Is there a recommended way now to judge whether your
> ZEO cach
[Gfeller, Martin]
> I'm further along the upgrade road and have found that starting up my
> app under ZEO is *much slower* than it used to be with Zope 2.7, >10
> minutes vs. <1 minute.
>
> I have relatively large temporary cache files
Beause you're comparing a pre-MVCC ZEO (3.2) with a post-MVCC
[Tres Seaver]
> ...
> I would guess that if you could do a census of all the OIDs in all the
> Datas.fs in the world, a significant majority of them would be instances
> of classes declared in IOBTree / IIBTree (certainly the bulk of
> *transaction* records are going to be tied up with them).
Prov
[Dieter Maurer]
> We are currently tuning an application for performance and therefore
> perform intensive profiling. To our surprise, it turned out
> that about 15% of total request time was spent in
> "Connection.afterCompletion". "Connection.afterCompletion" is mapped
> to "Connection._storage_s
[Chris Withers]
> Anyone ever see this error before and have a clue what it means?
>
> >>> File "lib/python/Zope2/Startup/__init__.py", line 47, in startup
> >>> starter.setConfiguration(cfg)
> >>> File "lib/python/Zope2/App/startup.py", line 100, in startup
> >>> File "lib/python/Product
[Antonio Beamud Montero]
> Well, now I can minimize the cache and get the next values (an unclosed
> connection fixed):
> [['BTrees.OOBTree.OOBTree', 3], ['Persistence.PersistentMapping', 6],
> ['request.Request', 14], ['status.Status', 3]]
>
> But my server doesn't free any memory, now it uses 55
[Chris Withers]
> Is it just me or does zeoup.py write a transaction to the end of Data.fs
> containing a MinPO object?
"""Make sure a ZEO server is running.
usage: zeoup.py [options]
The test will connect to a ZEO server, load the root object, and attempt to
update the zeoup counter in the root
[Chris McDonough]
> ...
> Does anyone want to use BTrees outside of a persistent hierarchy?
Oh yes. Some people install ZODB _just_ to use in-memory BTrees, with
no thought of persistence. This works fine. Sorted containers are an
important data structure in some algorithms. In-memory BTrees ar
[Mihai Ilinca]
> I want to have a ClientStorage that would work in both connected and
> disconnected (to zeo-server) mode. When zeo-server is not up (or
> reachable), I would like ClientStorage to use a local cache. Is that
> possible with ZEO?
To the _extent_ possible, yes. A cache is not a data
[Chris Withers]
>>> ...
>>> ...oh well, if only the ZODB cache was RAM-usage-based ratehr than object
>>> count based ;-)
[Tim Peters]
>> Ya, that's not feasible. More plausible would be to base ZODB cache targets
>> on aggregate pickle size; ZODB
[Andreas Jung]
> I have the following code in side a Plone app. The intent of this method is
> to perform a logging of changed Archetype fields. This code basically works
> but under some unknown circumstances I get error below where the
> transaction module seems to be None?! There is no product
[Chris Withers]
> ...
> ...oh well, if only the ZODB cache was RAM-usage-based ratehr than object
> count based ;-)
Ya, that's not feasible. More plausible would be to base ZODB cache targets
on aggregate pickle size; ZODB _could_ know that, and then it would also be
strongly related to how a ZEO
[Erik A. Dahl]
> I'm trying to get a zeo server to do authentication using the built-in
> digest stuff. I have poked around a bit and haven't found any
> documentation on it. Is there any?
Sorry, not that I know of. Remnants of the original proposal seem to be
here, and you may be able to glean
[Mihai Ilinca]
> ...
In addition to what Dieter said (thanks, Dieter!),
> ...
> Trough 'slave' I only do read operations at the moment.
You didn't say which version of ZODB you're using. If it's a version before
3.3, then a client that doesn't modify objects may not process invalidations
even w
[Chris Withers]
> This is with whatever ZODB ships with Zope 2.8.5...
Do:
import ZODB
print ZODB.__version__
to find out.
> I have a Stepper (zopectl run on steroids) job that deals with lots of
> big objects.
Can you quantify this?
> After processing each one, Stepper does a transact
Note that neither Transience nor TemporaryStorage are part of ZODB --
they're part of Zope. That doesn't mean they're off-topic here, but it does
mean you're probably not gonna get anywhere without attracting Chris
McDonough's attention.
___
For more in
[Florent Guillaume]
> In storage.py there's a comment saying that only a few types of pickles
> for the class descriptions are written, even if more are read. But
> actually in DB.py there's this code that creates a new root if oid z64
> doesn't exist:
>
> root = PersistentMapping()
>
[Jim Fulton]
> I have 2 answers. :)
>
> 1. This points out the benefit of not treating Zope as a library.
> Zope releases contain specific configurations of packages known
> to work together. It should have control over that configuration
> and it can't do that if everything is slammed
[replying to private email here, with permission]
[Egon Frerich]
> maybe you are interested in this.
>
> I installed Zope 3 (version 3.2) in python 2.4.2 site-packages (Windows
> XP Home - but I assume this is not important).
Windows isn't relevant to the problem you hit, no.
> Then I installed
Oops! I didn't mean to send that msg twice here. "The other" one was
trying to bcc the people whose subscriptions got disabled today, using a
non-Zope account. I expected that to get rejected by Mailman, but forgot
that I have multiple-account subscriptions to zodb-dev ...
_
Mailman disabled three subscriptions to zodb-dev today, due to SORBS
blacklisting of mail.zope.org: if your mail host keeps rejecting messages,
Mailman disables your subscription.
I doubt (but don't know) that anyone at Zope Corp is going to volunteer to
try to get mail.zope.org delisted (SORBS m
Mailman disabled three subscriptions to zodb-dev today, due to SORBS
blacklisting of mail.zope.org: if your mail host keeps rejecting messages,
Mailman disables your subscription.
I doubt (but don't know) that anyone at Zope Corp is going to volunteer to
try to get mail.zope.org delisted (SORBS m
[Tamas Hegedus]
> There is a missing entry point for the mkzeoinst.py script in
> ZODB3-3.5.1:
>
> if __name__=="__main__":
> main()
Nope. There are two files named mkzeoinst.py in 3.5.1. You're probably
looking at the module of that name, ZEO/mkzeoinst.py. It's not intended
that you run t
[DJL]
> I have a project that i want to export to nokia 770 that use zodb
> is there any recommendation to minimize the memory usage of zodb package
Don't store any objects in the database, and don't open any storages or
connections ;-)
Of course those are silly extremes, but they do point to thi
[Tim Peters]
> ...
> It doesn't call fsync() unless it's explicitly closed cleanly, but it's
> unclear what good fsync() actually does across platforms when flush() is
> called routinely and the power stays on.
LOL. Immediately upon sending that msg, there was a po
[Sidnei da Silva]
>> Every now and then I face a corruption of the persistent zeo cache, but
>> this is the first time I get this variant.
What other variants do you see?
>> The cause is very likely to be a forced shutdown of the box this zope
>> instance was running on, but I thought it would be
[Andreas Jung]
> ...
> Obviously ZEO (using TRACE) runs on Zope 3 without zLOG so specific
> extension can be handled locally.
ZEO also runs on Zopes 2.8 and 2.9 without zLOG -- zLOG hasn't been
used in ZODB since 3.2 (ZODBs 3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 3.6, and current trunk
contain no references to zLOG).
If
[Fred Drake]
> Nobody should be using the zLOG levels with the logging package, but
> rather use the logging package levels. So in the end, there's no need
> for Zope to be defining levels at all, only conventions for how the
> levels are used.
The logging package supports defining as many additi
[Andreas Jung]
> ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB package
> that actually uses these levels.
Nevertheless, grep'ing the ZODB source for TRACE and BLATHER will find them.
TRACE is used only in modules under ZEO/zrpc/, and gives extremely verbose
output about bare-met
I'm pleased to announce the release of ZODB 3.6 final. This corresponds to
the ZODB included (or that will be included) in Zope 2.9 final and Zope 3.2
final. You can download a source tarball or Windows installer from:
http://zope.org/Products/ZODB3.6
Note that there are two Windows install
[Tamas Hegedus]
> Please do not forget that I am not a real programmer but a consumer:
That's OK -- in return, please don't forget that you're posting to a ZODB
developer's list ;-).
> 0. I accept if the policy is making ZODB just for Zope.
That's the only solid reason Zope Corp has to _pay_ for
[Tamas Hegedus]
> You have released the ZODB/ZEO as a stand alone package. But there is no
> stand alone searching possibility. Why? This just does not make any
> sense.
It makes sense if you know why ZODB is released this way ;-) Primarily,
it's so that people running Zope can install ZEO server
[José Carlos Senciales]
> How can i know if i have my Python configured with large file support ?
>
> My version is:
>
> Zope Version (Zope 2.8.4-final, python 2.3.5, win32)
> Python Version 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit
(Intel)] System
> Platform win32
All flavors of Wind
[Monica chopra]
> ...
> I am still hanging at my point how to hide that data in .fs file as i
> can see completely all the data if i open that file in notepad or any
> other editor. I will attach a sample data.fs file and my sample code with
> this mail . See if any one can guide me inthis contex
[Tim Peters]
>> I'm still baffled by how you get into this state to begin with. Florent
>> explained why earlier, and I didn't see a reply to this part:
[Florent Guillaume]
>>> By itself Zope never uses more than one connection per thread, and the
>>> nu
...
[Tim]
>> FYI, I added code to clear the cache in _ConnectionPool at the time a
>> closed Connection is forgotten. This will be in ZODB 3.6 final, which
>> in turn will be in Zopes 2.9 and 3.2 final.
[Pitcher]
> Okay. Tank you. But it's good not always... You never said anything good
> or bad
FYI, I added code to clear the cache in _ConnectionPool at the time a closed
Connection is forgotten. This will be in ZODB 3.6 final, which in turn will
be in Zopes 2.9 and 3.2 final.
I don't have time for more here now, so if others want more it's up to them
;-)
> ...
> P.S. Call me Pitcher, i
I'm still baffled by how you get into this state to begin with. Florent
explained why earlier, and I didn't see a reply to this part:
[Florent Guillaume]
> Huh are you sure? That would mean you have thousands of threads. Or
> hundreds or ZEO clients. Or hundreds of ZODB mountpoints.
>
> By itse
[Tim Peters]
...
>> I suggested before that forcing calls to gc.collect() would give more
>> evidence. If that doesn't help, then it's most likely that the
>> application is keeping Connections alive.
[David Rushby]
> I'm not the OP, but I was able to reprodu
[Dieter Maurer]
> They did not tell us about their application. But, Zope's database
> adapters work like this. They use the ZODB cache (and its pool) as an RDB
> connection pool. Thus, if the ZODB caches are not released, the RDB
> connections won't.
I believe you, but I'm not sure what to make o
[Syver Enstad]
>>> I have recently upgraded from ZODB 3.2 to 3.5.1. After doing this I
>>> notice that ZEO throws exceptions on commiting a transaction for
>>> certain types of Persistent classes. ...
[Tim Peters]
>> I was able to create a small self-contained t
[Tim]
>> ...
>> Or there are no strong reference to `obj`, but `obj` is part of cyclic
>> garbage so _continues to exist_ until a round of Python's cyclic garbage
>> collection runs.
[Dieter Maurer]
> And this is *VERY* likely as any persistent object in the cache has a
> (strong, I believe) refer
[Syver Enstad]
> I have recently upgraded from ZODB 3.2 to 3.5.1. After doing this I
> notice that ZEO throws exceptions on commiting a transaction for certain
> types of Persistent classes.
> ...
I was able to create a small self-contained test case from this description,
and opened a Collector i
Oops! I sent this to zope-dev instead of zodb-dev by mistake.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Not agree. Can you answer the question? Does self.all.remove(c) mean
>>> that we WANT to destroy connection instance?
[Tim Peters]
>> It means that _ConnectionPool no longer has a reason
...
[Florent Guillaume]
>> The self.all.remove(c) in _ConnectionPool attempts to destroy the
>> connection. If something else has a reference to it once it's closed,
>> then that's a bug, and it shouldn't. It should only keep a weak
>> reference to it at most.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> But it's nonsens
[Florent Guillaume]
>> ...
>> If you see many RDB connections, then it's a RDB problem and not a ZODB
>> problem. Something not releasing RDB connections quick enough, or
>> leaking RDB connections.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Not agree. Can you answer the question? Does self.all.remove(c) mean that
> we
[Florent Guillaume]
> ...
> The self.all.remove(c) in _ConnectionPool attempts to destroy the
> connection.
Nope, it's simply getting rid of a weak reference that no longer serves a
purpose, to avoid unbounded growth of the .all set in case of ill-behaved
application code, and to speed Python's cy
[??? ? ?]
> Hi. A little bit of history... We have zope as an application server for
> heavy loaded tech process. We have high peaks of load several times a day
> and my question is about how can we can avoid unused connections to
> remain in memory after peak is passed? Before
[Florent Guillaume]
> Ok I've dug deeper and now understand the problem. The root cause is in
> the multi-databases support.
>
> The problem is that the Zope startup only closes the main connection it
> had on the root database. The first connection to the TemporaryStorage,
> created and opened dur
[Florent Guillaume]
> I've been debugging session problems for two days, I feel it's time to
> write down what I've observed and ask for other eyes to look at it (Chris
> McDonough has been working on this too). This is all on Zope 2.9 trunk
> BTW (ZODB 3.6.0b5 and Zope 2.9's tempstorage) with pyth
[Tim Peters]
>> It's the traceback that's needed here. You're working too hard ;-)
[Sidnei da Silva]
> Indeed.
>
> File "C:\Arquivos de programas\Enfold
Server\Products\ATContentTypes\tests\atcttestcase.py", line 258, in
test_migrationKeep
[Sidnei]
>>> I have a object that subclasses from Shared.DC.ZRDB.TM and it's bombing
>>> with a 'TypeError: Savepoints unsupported' with Zope 2.8.
[Tim]
>> Please find a full traceback and share it.
...
[Sidnei]
> Happens on line 632 of a current Zope 2.8 checkout:
>
> if not opt
[Sidnei da Silva]
> I have a object that subclasses from Shared.DC.ZRDB.TM and it's bombing
> with a 'TypeError: Savepoints unsupported' with Zope 2.8.
Please find a full traceback and share it.
> Should the Shared.DC.ZRDB.TM implement savepoints as a 'noop' maybe?
No -- "lying" would make matte
[Andreas Jung, on zope-dev; Tim added zodb-dev to this msg]
> I would like to consider the 2.7 branch closed for any kind of fixes except
> security related fixes. I don't plan any further 2.7 releases.
In that case (which is fine by me), I'll stop porting fixes to the
ZODB 3.2 line too. No chang
[Dmitry Vasiliev]
> Sure, but my reasonable assumption was that when you insert an exception
> message in a doctest you reread it another one time and fix typos if any.
Relying on ideal behavior is rarely a "reasonable assumption" ;-)
What actually happens is that people write new doctests, run t
[Florent Guillaume]
> Plagiarism! ;)
> http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zodb-dev/2005-December/009560.html
Fascinating! I didn't know "plagiarism" was French for "open source" ;-)
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[Sidnei da Silva]
> But, why only the 2.8 tests would fail then?
Hey, it's your machine, you figure it out ;-) Note that test.py in 2.8 has
little in common with the test.py in 2.9 or Zope trunk, and they may very
well react in different ways to quirks in your environment.
> I'll try a 'make cle
[Sidnei]
> I've seen the following tests fail today, after updating Zope 2.8 branch
> ...
> Python 2.4.2 (#2, Nov 20 2005, 17:20:59)
> ...
BTW, I think the Official Story is that Python 2.4+ is still not supported
for Zope 2.8. I ran all the stuff in my reply with 2.4.2 too. Doesn't
matter, tho
[Sidnei da Silva]
> I've seen the following tests fail today, after updating Zope 2.8 branch
> for all variants of BTrees:
>
> ==
> ERROR: testUpdateFromPersistentMapping
> (BTrees.tests.testBTrees.IIBucketTest)
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