Re: [ZODB-Dev] make ZODB as small and compact as expected

2013-07-29 Thread Christian Tismer
On 29.07.13 13:22, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Christian Tismer wrote: Yes, I understand this intention and see no problem: Just the namespace might be ZODB.Btrees which would not change the split. They would still live alone, separate projects. This seems to be a c

Re: [ZODB-Dev] make ZODB as small and compact as expected

2013-07-29 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Christian Tismer wrote: > Yes, I understand this intention and see no problem: > Just the namespace might be ZODB.Btrees which would not change > the split. They would still live alone, separate projects. This seems to be a complete red herring. What difference do

Re: [ZODB-Dev] make ZODB as small and compact as expected

2013-07-29 Thread Alan Runyan
Pretty sure this could be merged to zopefoundation project if anyone asked Carlos. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Adam GROSZER wrote: > On 07/22/2013 01:27 PM, Jim Fulton wrote: > >> >> - The biggest thing ZODB needs right now is documentation. >>Unfortunately, this isn't easy. There is z

Re: [ZODB-Dev] make ZODB as small and compact as expected

2013-07-27 Thread Leonardo Santagada
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Adam GROSZER wrote: > On 07/22/2013 01:27 PM, Jim Fulton wrote: > >> >> - The biggest thing ZODB needs right now is documentation. >>Unfortunately, this isn't easy. There is zodb.org, >>but much better documentation is needed. >> > > There is > > https://g

Re: [ZODB-Dev] make ZODB as small and compact as expected

2013-07-22 Thread Adam GROSZER
On 07/22/2013 01:27 PM, Jim Fulton wrote: - The biggest thing ZODB needs right now is documentation. Unfortunately, this isn't easy. There is zodb.org, but much better documentation is needed. There is https://github.com/cguardia/ZODB-Documentation but seems like it got stalled 5 month

Re: [ZODB-Dev] make ZODB as small and compact as expected

2013-07-22 Thread Jürgen Herrmann
Am 22.07.2013 13:27, schrieb Jim Fulton: On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Christian Tismer wrote: This is my last emission for tonight. I would be using ZODB as a nice little package if it was one. There should be nothing else but ZODB. Instead, there is BTrees persistent

Re: [ZODB-Dev] make ZODB as small and compact as expected

2013-07-22 Thread Christian Tismer
On 22.07.13 18:01, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/22/2013 09:15 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: BTrees I agree, this could be part of ZODB and it would be fine. Splitting out BTrees was a conscious decision to serve two goals: - - Allow evolving it (in part

Re: [ZODB-Dev] make ZODB as small and compact as expected

2013-07-22 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/22/2013 09:15 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: >>> BTrees > I agree, this could be part of ZODB and it would be fine. Splitting out BTrees was a conscious decision to serve two goals: - - Allow evolving it (in particular, the work to port it to Py3k

Re: [ZODB-Dev] make ZODB as small and compact as expected

2013-07-22 Thread Christian Tismer
On 22.07.13 15:15, Stephan Richter wrote: On Sunday, July 21, 2013 06:12:34 AM Christian Tismer wrote: BTrees I agree, this could be part of ZODB and it would be fine. ... ZODB3 (zlibstorage) Well, this package is deprecated. It is available for backward-compatibility. Yes,

Re: [ZODB-Dev] make ZODB as small and compact as expected

2013-07-22 Thread Jim Fulton
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: > On Sunday, July 21, 2013 06:12:34 AM Christian Tismer wrote: ... >> ZConfig > > In my opinion this is a relic from the times before configparser existed. IMO, ZConfig is very useful in some specific cases, especially ZODB and logging

Re: [ZODB-Dev] make ZODB as small and compact as expected

2013-07-22 Thread Stephan Richter
On Sunday, July 21, 2013 06:12:34 AM Christian Tismer wrote: > BTrees I agree, this could be part of ZODB and it would be fine. > persistent > transaction > zc.lockfile > zdaemon > zope.interface These are all very useful outside the context of ZODB and I use them w

Re: [ZODB-Dev] make ZODB as small and compact as expected

2013-07-22 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Christian Tismer wrote: > This is my last emission for tonight. > > I would be using ZODB as a nice little package if it was one. > > There should be nothing else but > > ZODB. > > Instead, there is > > BTrees > persistent > transaction > zc.lo

[ZODB-Dev] make ZODB as small and compact as expected

2013-07-20 Thread Christian Tismer
This is my last emission for tonight. I would be using ZODB as a nice little package if it was one. There should be nothing else but ZODB. Instead, there is BTrees persistent transaction zc.lockfile zc.zlibstorage ZConfig zdaemon ZEO ZODB ZODB3 (z