Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-24 Thread Menno Lageman
Anon Y Mous wrote: But this is fairly far from the Zones-discuss topic. I respectfully disagree, I think this is part of the Zones-discuss topic. The whole reason people want a minimal OpenSolaris install is to have a global zone with nothing running in it (except for maybe an SSH server

Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-23 Thread Anon Y Mous
But this is fairly far from the Zones-discuss topic. I respectfully disagree, I think this is part of the Zones-discuss topic. The whole reason people want a minimal OpenSolaris install is to have a global zone with nothing running in it (except for maybe an SSH server and an internal

Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-22 Thread Moore, Joe
Jeff Victor wrote: Seriously, it would be helpful for Sun to understand the advantages of a release that doesn't have a GUI as an option. In other words, what problems are caused by the existence of the GUI software (besides wasted disk space)? Instead of a separate distro, perhaps it would

Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-20 Thread Anon Y Mous
I know some of you guys are chuckling at my statements thinking well, maybe his postfix and apache and BIND / named servers don't have a windowing environment, but Oracle needs X-windows. Well, actually it's possible to install Oracle without using X-windows on Red Hat Enterprise Linux (see

Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-20 Thread Anon Y Mous
Rats. This post was supposed to be below my other two older posts in the forum, not above them. My bad. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-19 Thread James Litchfield
In the days of packages and Solaris 10 (i.e., what is used now and will be for quite a while)... A) Much less time to install and instantiate whole root zones if you get rid of a lot of dross. This includes service instantiation. Less disk space used for the zone. Disk space savings of

Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-19 Thread Anon Y Mous
Instead of a separate distro, perhaps it would be simpler for everybody if there was a no-GUI server installation option that simply doesn't install the GUI tools. Would that meet your needs? Thanks for the quick response Jeff! We also already did have a discussion about having a minimal

Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-18 Thread Jeff Victor
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Peter Tribblepeter.trib...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Harry Putnamrea...@newsguy.com wrote: Alexander Skwar alexanders.mailinglists+nos...@gmail.com writes: What he plans can be done easily using NGZ (non-global zones). An NGZ also adds

Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-18 Thread Jeff Victor
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Anon Y Mousno-re...@opensolaris.org wrote: One thing I've found to be true though: either a machine is all zoned, or not. It gets horribly confusing to have real activity in the global zone, where you can half see the non-global zones, so if you have zones

Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-17 Thread Anon Y Mous
One thing I've found to be true though: either a machine is all zoned, or not. It gets horribly confusing to have real activity in the global zone, where you can half see the non-global zones, so if you have zones on a machine then it's easier to run nothing in the global zone and just use

[zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-14 Thread Harry Putnam
After reading only a little about zones.. I doubt I really get the expected usage one might put a zone to. My case is very homespun just a home lan with at most... 6 machines. 1 vista(laptop) 3 winXP 1 linux 1 Opensolaris (2009.6 still using b111) I've been mainly a linux user until

Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-14 Thread Dr Hung-Sheng Tsao (LaoTsao)
May be use vbox or xen in opensolarris --- Original message --- From: Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com Sent: 14/7/'09, 7:35 After reading only a little about zones.. I doubt I really get the expected usage one might put a zone to. My case is very homespun just a home lan with at

Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-14 Thread Alexander Skwar
Why? What he plans can be done easily using NGZ (non-global zones). An NGZ also adds just a little bit of overhead (if any at all) to the system - unlike vbox. What would be the gain of using a more complex technology like vbox/xen in comparison to NGZs? On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 13:42, Dr

Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-14 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Harry Putnamrea...@newsguy.com wrote: After reading only a little about zones.. I doubt I really get the expected usage one might put a zone to. My case is very homespun just a home lan with at most... 6 machines. 1 vista(laptop) 3 winXP 1 linux 1

Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Alexander Skwar alexanders.mailinglists+nos...@gmail.com writes: What he plans can be done easily using NGZ (non-global zones). An NGZ also adds just a little bit of overhead (if any at all) to the system - unlike vbox. So you're saying a zone to handle all backup work is a sensible way to go