[Karl Anderson]
| In order to link/incorporate a GPL'd module, you have to be able to
| distribute the entire work under the GPL.
:
| Therefore, assuming RMS is correct, GPL'd components can't be
| distributed as part of a Zope solution.
:
| Is this correct? If it is, the GPL isn't very approp
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> Hi,
> I made an effort to look through the FAQs on zope.org and couldn't find a
> definitive answer, though the ZODB faq hinted that my fears are warranted.
>
> If I deploy a site and store content in the ZODB, what are my options in terms
> of automatically getting
Is there a way of detecting Zope's version number? (I know there is an
environment variable REQUEST.environ['SERVER_SOFTWARE'], but is there a
better/standard way of accessing Zope's version number?)
(I seem to have problem using the context.registerHelp() in a product's
__init__ method under
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Hi,
This is a Unix C question. But since I am doing something that ultimately
results in a Zope product, I might as well ask the question here. :)
I am trying to build a third-party utility in Linux. I ran into troubles in
the compilation process because of the usage of backslash \ as line
co
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Hi,
I made an effort to look through the FAQs on zope.org and couldn't find a
definitive answer, though the ZODB faq hinted that my fears are warranted.
If I deploy a site and store content in the ZODB, what are my options in terms
of automatically getting it out of there and into another DB or f
Hi,
I think the direction of this discussion has been lost. The main
concern is with the distribution of GPL'd zope products as a part of
other products, commercial, proprietary, freeware, or not. In this
case, does the GPL enforce that the product as a whole must be
distributed under the GPL?
Karl Anderson wrote:
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong (and don't bother with the discussion on the
> merits or non- of the GPL, I don't care in this context), but:
>
> In order to link/incorporate a GPL'd module, you have to be able to
> distribute the entire work under the GPL.
>
> RMS says that th
Skip Montanaro wrote:
>
> I'm experiencing bad memory leaks in my ZServer-based system. I recently
> upgraded from 2.0.0 to 2.2.1. I didn't have leakage using 2.0.0 - certainly
> nothing like I'm seeing it now. When I call the same method (same
> parameters as well) over and over, I pretty sig
How do I remove ownership from a product, ie: make it unowned?
I have some dtml that works quite happily on unowned objects, but at soon as
they become owned I get into a whole whack of problems with getUserById. Of
course I would really love to have ownership work, but I know its hell
trying to
> How do I get the count in a sequence?
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Hello all,
I'm curious about what the current state-of-the-art is for using
techniques other than (clumsy) browser editing to edit Zope objects in
the ODB, and FTP and webdav -capable products and which ones they like
the most.. How is webdav different than FTP? How would one use it?
I've used
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> I want to call a dtml doc with where docname
> is in a subfolder. What is the syntax to do this?
>
This is where we find out why you don't put a . in an object name. (o8
Simple enough? (o8
> --Sean
>
Have a better one,
Curtis.
I am using the following on an NT installation with no problems
However when I use it on a Linux install it get
Error Type: ValueError
Error Value: unsupported format character 'm' (0x6d)
What am I missing here.
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Correct me if I'm wrong (and don't bother with the discussion on the
merits or non- of the GPL, I don't care in this context), but:
In order to link/incorporate a GPL'd module, you have to be able to
distribute the entire work under the GPL.
RMS says that the ZPL isn't compatible with the GPL;
http://www.zope.org/Members/greulen/zopestud
This is too cool. Way alpha and it is what I have been looking for.
After I installed it I opened the options drop menu and selected settings. I
then clicked the 'editor' tab and selected the 'Editor executable' radio
button. I browsed to dreamwaver
Oops how about count-rec_id..
Sorry for the previous message.
Stuart
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How do I get the count in a sequence?
rec_id is a field from a table that is being used in the . However
the result isn't correct.
TIA
Stuart
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> ---
> Use Z_REALM env. var to set your HTTP
> mcdonc brings us this tip:
>
> Set the environment variable "Z_REALM" to change the HTTP "authentication
> realm" in which your Zope server
> participates.
> Additional details:
> F
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Magnus Alvestad wrote:
>
> [Danny William Adair]
>
> | Now Nils and Oleg are giving me the creeps.
>
> There are several issues here.
>
> First, it is not obvious that including one GPL'ed product in a zope
> site and then distributing that site obliges you to distribute any
> further source c
Steve Williams wrote:
>
> I installed ZOPE 2.2.1 yesterday under Windows 98 to fix a ZSQL
> authorization problem.
>
> After rebooting my machine this morning, when I run ZOPE's start.bat,
> the DOS command screen comes up, flashes some messages quickly and then
> disappears, so ZOPE won't start
> "TC" == Tim Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
TC> Danny William Adair wrote:
>> Hi all!
>>
>> Now Nils and Oleg are giving me the creeps. Is it not possible
>> to take a few GPLed Zope products, add your own effort of
>> configuring, integrating, building, (re-)des
> Hello,
>
>I've been tryhing hard for the last two weeks to use
>zope but I can't seem to get it to go past the /manage
>resource.
Ouch! - you'll like it once you get started.
I'm running zserver, I tried the default
>password, changing it with zpasswd, removing domain
>restrictions, ev
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>
> Hi,
> I want to call a dtml doc with where docname
> is in a subfolder. What is the syntax to do this?
>
HTH,
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Hi,
I use an ZSQLMethod to query a database. In the result report I try to
insert the results of another ZSQLMethod per each record of the first
result report. The problem is that the first record shows the correct
result of the second result, but that the following records all show the
second re
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From: "Nils Kassube" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Magnus Alvestad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope and the GPL poison pill
> Magnus Alvestad wrote:
>
> > Third, you are only obligated to distribu
I would like to be able to import multiple existing HTML files into Zope and
make them searchable.
For example:
I would like to be able to point a Zope Method at my c:\python\doc
subdirectory and import not only the index.html file, but also import the
subdirectories under ...\doc\ and all of t
Hi Gilles!
Doesn't the "realm tip" apply anymore?
---
Use Z_REALM env. var to set your HTTP
mcdonc brings us this tip:
Set the environment variable "Z_REALM" to change the HTTP "authentication
realm" in which your Zope server
p
Hello,
I've been tryhing hard for the last two weeks to use
zope but I can't seem to get it to go past the /manage
resource. I'm running zserver, I tried the default
password, changing it with zpasswd, removing domain
restrictions, everything, but it still gives me
authentication failed.
Just to state my position, I have worked as a professional commercial
software developer since 1994. I think the GPL is appropriate for
work I do outside customer contracts.
[Nils Kassube]
| The problem is not that a client who paid for custom development
| will get the source. It's the fact th
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Nils Kassube wrote:
> The problem is not that a client who paid for custom development
> will get the source. It's the fact that you have to release the
> source code of an enhanced GPL'ed component (and possibly stuff
> built with it) for everyone else, too.
*gasp* Your cl
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 06:02:15PM +0200, Nils Kassube wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oleg Broytmann) wrote:
>
> >No, you are not forced to publish anything. GPL "virus" applied only if
> > you want to *distribute* combined (your code + my GPL'd code).
>
> Like in "distributing to clients"? So
Nils Kassube wrote:
>
> Oleg Broytmann wrote:
>
> > LICENSE
> >GPL
>
> I've seen several Zope products using the GPL. In my not so
> humble opinion, this could develop into a serious problem
> for Zope deployment. I'm not a lawyer (nor do I play one on TV),
> but the use of GPL'ed source co
Would anyone on the list have a solution to implementing idle timeouts using
FSSession?
I know you can cron up a simple job to delete the FSSession hierarchy based
on date and time, but how do you know which sessions are still being used if
you want to delete stuff say every 10 minutes or so?
Richard Moon says:
>Zope offers the potential to be the perfect development environment with
>tons of really good solutions off the shelf - these can be customised if
>they have to, we can drop down to Python if we really need to. Perfect.
>
>Unfortunately its been difficult to get discussions
Steve Alexander writes:
> I get an error when I try to add a DTML Method with REQUEST anywhere in
> the id.
>
> Actually, the method gets added, but I cannot edit it.
>
> I haven't found out why yet.
The bad code is in "ZPublisher.BaseRequest.traverse":
# Make sure that REQUEST
Danny William Adair wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> Now Nils and Oleg are giving me the creeps.
> Is it not possible to take a few GPLed Zope products, add your own effort of
> configuring, integrating, building, (re-)designing, and even documenting the
> outcome of your efforts and - ___sell___ this? Ma
Magnus Alvestad wrote:
> Third, you are only obligated to distribute source to parties you have
> already distributed the binary version to. I can't really see a
> customer buying a zope site from you and not expecting 'source'
> anyway.
The problem is not that a client who paid for custom deve
Stuart Foster writes:
> Dieter Maurer wrote:
> > You should include two positional parameters as well:
> >
> >
> This is the way I had to do it what's up with the two extra params?
DTML objects use the DocumentTemplate's (--> DocumentTemplate.DT_String)
__call__ function for rendering.
peter be writes:
> In the root
> A DTML Method
>
> Some objects (mostly DTML Documents) have a property (boolean) that tells
> whether this is a helppage or not.
> What I want to do is to loop though eash and every object in the entire site
> (not very big) and check if the object
I'm experiencing bad memory leaks in my ZServer-based system. I recently
upgraded from 2.0.0 to 2.2.1. I didn't have leakage using 2.0.0 - certainly
nothing like I'm seeing it now. When I call the same method (same
parameters as well) over and over, I pretty significant leakage via isolate
met
[Danny William Adair]
| Now Nils and Oleg are giving me the creeps.
There are several issues here.
First, it is not obvious that including one GPL'ed product in a zope
site and then distributing that site obliges you to distribute any
further source code. Only if you (embrace and) extend that
A Class is a template for an object, you create it once and any changes
affect every object.
An object is an instance of a class, it contains data, properties etc.
Changing that just changes the object and it is common to change the
information in an object.
Karl I think you are trying to change
Hello,
my zserver is often going down. this is my nohup.out-log on linux red
hat. Any Idea ?
2000-09-12T15:27:17 ERROR(200) ZServer uncaptured python exception,
closing chan
nel (socket.error:(9, 'Bad file descriptor')
[/usr/local/dc/Zope-2.1.4-linux2-x
86/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py|initia
Martijn Pieters wrote:
>
> Remove ComputedAttribute.py and things should be better. In the source
> distribution it is located in lib/Components/ExtensionClass, which isn't
> included in the Linux binary distribution.
I removed the file ComputedAttribute.pyc and everything works well. It
was in
From: "Dwayne Morrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hello,
>
> I posted earlier about Xron 0.0.9 event scheduling woes. One of my stabs
> in the dark seems to work.
> I removed the 'this()' parameter entirely and
> now am able to schedule events via DTML.
I'm glad you figured out how to proceed.
I
Danny William Adair wrote:
> Is it not possible to take a few GPLed Zope products, add your own effort of
> configuring, integrating, building, (re-)designing, and even documenting the
> outcome of your efforts and - ___sell___ this? Maybe not only to _one_
> customer, but burn a CD and sell it t
Hi,
I want to call a dtml doc with where docname
is in a subfolder. What is the syntax to do this?
--Sean
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Danny William Adair wrote:
> Now Nils and Oleg are giving me the creeps.
> Is it not possible to take a few GPLed Zope products, add your own effort of
> configuring, integrating, building, (re-)designing, and even documenting the
> outcome of your efforts and - ___sell___ thi
Hi everybody,
I have a Zope site with many DTML document and I would like to make them
catalog aware because I want the web site users to be able to search the
site.
The web site users are already able to modify the site themselves and
this functionality must be kept.
I use the debian zope packag
Hi all!
Now Nils and Oleg are giving me the creeps.
Is it not possible to take a few GPLed Zope products, add your own effort of
configuring, integrating, building, (re-)designing, and even documenting the
outcome of your efforts and - ___sell___ this? Maybe not only to _one_
customer, but burn a
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Nils Kassube wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oleg Broytmann) wrote:
>
> >No, you are not forced to publish anything. GPL "virus" applied only if
> > you want to *distribute* combined (your code + my GPL'd code).
>
> Like in "distributing to clients"? So that I have to publis
Hi Tom,
> I just read your proposal and I think it would be nice to have such a
> standard product in Zope. Certianly since lot's of these 'shopping carts'
> websites are popping up on the internet.
> I've however one question, which is more generally to e-commerce products
> and which perhaps gi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oleg Broytmann) wrote:
>No, you are not forced to publish anything. GPL "virus" applied only if
> you want to *distribute* combined (your code + my GPL'd code).
Like in "distributing to clients"? So that I have to publish
source code to the whole world (not only clients) t
From: Stuart Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The first example is what I was doing. But felt it was hard to follow.
> However I would be interested in why it would be considered more robust.
I probably misused the word; what I meant was that the form is
less likely to have errors like forgetting th
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 11:24:18AM -0300, César A. K. Grossmann wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm having some strange problems with the RPM version of Zope 2.2.1: it
> starts, but dies without any message in /var/log/messages.
>
> I try to run it by hand, and get these messages:
>
> [root@server zope]# ./zse
I've enjoyed the contributions on this thread. Some time back I mentioned
that what hooked me on Zope was the Relational Database access "out of the
box".
I liked the way Zope generated a simple database query form and result - so
I agree strongly that Zope could hook more people if it did eve
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 08:31:52AM -0400, Coleman, Bryan wrote:
> That would cause another whole set of problems, unless apache is inherity
> more secure than Medusa. I was really wondering what the risks are
> associated with those two options.
I think Zope behind apache is more secure than zope
The first example is what I was doing. But felt it was hard to follow.
However I would be interested in why it would be considered more robust.
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From: Evan Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:15 PM
To: Stuart Foster; Dieter Maurer
Cc: Zo
Dear all,
I'm a happy Zope user (in a private environment), experienced in
client-server application development but still quite green regarding to
Zope. I'm trying to figure out how I can use database locking using ZSQL
and MySQL. What is the case? I would like to implement a multi-user update
f
Since I do this type of thing for a living, I can tell
you the best answer is Option B. If your company is that
security paranoid, a DMZ is always a better idea than
poking holes in end-to-end connections in the firewall.
On 12-Sep-2000 Coleman, Bryan wrote:
> I almost have my company convinced
They pass in the current name space, the context if you will. Someone
posted a reply that had a link to the faq that attempts to explains
this.
DR
Stuart Foster wrote:
>
> This is the way I had to do it what's up with the two extra params?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Hi
I'm having some strange problems with the RPM version of Zope 2.2.1: it
starts, but dies without any message in /var/log/messages.
I try to run it by hand, and get these messages:
[root@server zope]# ./zserver.sh
[root@server zope]# Traceback (innermost last):
File "z2.py", line 554, in ?
Note that there is also a proposal in progress to put session-tracking in
the Zope core.
See http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/CoreSessionTracking and make
comments if you see fit.
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent:
Hi!
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Nils Kassube wrote:
> Oleg Broytmann wrote:
>
> > LICENSE
> >GPL
>
> I've seen several Zope products using the GPL. In my not so
> humble opinion, this could develop into a serious problem
> for Zope deployment. I'm not a lawyer (nor do I play one on TV),
> but the
Marcello,
I'd say the simplest way is to create an external method, something like
(untested):
def addToTextFile(self, thingToAdd = None):
if thingToAdd:
f=open('thefile','w')
f.write(thingToAdd+'\n')
f.close()
or similar for changing/updating etc.
If you are short
Nils Kassube wrote:
> I hope Zope product developers think twice about using the GPL.
> The GPL license is not about sharing like e.g. the BSD license,
> it's about enforcing the political agenda of people who think
> that commercial ("proprietary") software w/o source code is evil.
This is very
Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> LICENSE
>GPL
I've seen several Zope products using the GPL. In my not so
humble opinion, this could develop into a serious problem
for Zope deployment. I'm not a lawyer (nor do I play one on TV),
but the use of GPL'ed source code like e.g. Renderable ZClass
in your we
Hi,
Is it possible to serialize an object to share it across several pages ?
This would allow one to pass the serialized object via the URL, and to
retreive it in the form that would process the request.
I know there is the pickle function in python, but is there a more
Zopish way to do this ?
From: "Jean Jordaan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Wiki-Safetybelt: 968246577.617
>
> What is is, and do I need to keep it if I want to ftp them
> back in?
It's a weak protection for when two people grab a copy of a wiki page, edit
it, then post their conflicting changed pages. When the second person
I installed ZOPE 2.2.1 yesterday under Windows 98 to fix a ZSQL
authorization problem.
After rebooting my machine this morning, when I run ZOPE's start.bat,
the DOS command screen comes up, flashes some messages quickly and then
disappears, so ZOPE won't start.
Running Z2.py in Python gives me t
I know not much about security because I don't have to worry about it, but
out of your talk, it seems that your company finds apache secure. Then why
don't you just run Zope behind Apache with a FASTCGI, or something else?
Sorry if I'm completely missing the point of your problem.
Regards, Tom.
You could always use one of the session management products on the Zope
site.
My particular favourite is SQLSession, but others exist which do a similar
job.
hth
Phil
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: T
> Any other good solutions are welcomed!
There are several 'Sitemap' solutions that do this more or less, but...
Any reason you can't use a catalog for this and catalog on the property?
This is much faster and much more flexible
Rik
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That would cause another whole set of problems, unless apache is inherity
more secure than Medusa. I was really wondering what the risks are
associated with those two options.
- Bryan Patrick Coleman
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(336)273-2428 ext-416
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> -Original Message-
Another option might be to proxy the Zope server through Apache on port 80.
- Original Message -
From: "Coleman, Bryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 12:43 PM
Subject: [Zope] Important Security Concerns
> I almost have my company convince
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Pierre-Julien Grizel wrote:
> Is it possible to serialize an object to share it across several pages ?
> This would allow one to pass the serialized object via the URL, and to
> retreive it in the form that would process the request.
Oh, no! Think if I hack the page you se
I almost have my company convinced that Zope is the technology to use for
our Intranet/Extranet. However they are very concerned with security. I have
proposed two security schemes that I would like zope community feed back on
for potential holes.
Option A: Poke a hole through our firewall on the
Hi all
If I ftp a bunch of zwikipages out of the ZODB, each one
has this::
Wiki-Safetybelt: 968246577.617
What is is, and do I need to keep it if I want to ftp them
back in? The thing is, I 'diff'ed and 'patch'ed two wikis
against each other, and I'm not interested in changes that
involve o
> infact this is the problem, right now i'm not able to program in python
> but only on using zope.
Hm, you'd be surprised how easy the Python bit is. THere is excellent
documentation at the Python site (http://www.python.org)
> I used the FSSession product before and i think that should be a Si
Thank you,
infact this is the problem, right now i'm not able to program in python
but only on using zope.
I used the FSSession product before and i think that should be a Similar
product to make changes on files.
thank you for the help.
Marcello
Rik Hoekstra wrote:
>
> > anyone know how to le
> anyone know how to let Zope interact with text files on the system on it
> is running.
I take it you mean files external to the ZODB database
> Like making changes to files, search and replare some text or insert or
> delete text and save the file again?
> I'm pretty new and i don't know if it
Hi to all,
anyone know how to let Zope interact with text files on the system on it
is running.
Like making changes to files, search and replare some text or insert or
delete text and save the file again?
I'm pretty new and i don't know if it is possible for Zope.
Thank You in advice.
Marcello
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Karl Munroe wrote:
>
> I have constructed a z class which contians other products. Is it possible
> for me to have access and edit the properties of the objects contained in
> the z class.
> For example. MYZClass contains an image object...how do I change the and
> edit the photo contained in t
Hello,
Question about Zope 2.2.1:
- I have a 'administration' folder which contains administration methods and
is restricted to the 'project_admin' role.
- The user 'toto' has the role 'project_admin'.
When I access this folder, the login window prompt for a 'Zope' resource
(IE4, Opera4..).
peter be wrote:
> Some objects (mostly DTML Documents) have a property (boolean) that tells
> whether this is a helppage or not.
> What I want to do is to loop though eash and every object in the entire site
> (not very big) and check if the object has this property.
Does your site have any folde
Hi!
I write and maintain a project "Bookamrks Database and Internet robot"
(detailed announce after quotations). It is not exactly what you want, but
I have plans to add Oedipus to my list of databases. Probably there are
fields we may cooperate.
I am very short on time these days :(
On Mo
Sie (Martijn Pieters,[EMAIL PROTECTED]) sannoit:
>
> There are generally two things that could have gone wrong here:
>
> - You didn't specify the Manager Role for the User. The list of Roles on
> the User manage page is _not_ the assigned list, but the possible list
> of Roles. Select the Ma
> Dieter Maurer
> You should include two positional parameters as well:
>
>
I've recently had explained to me a way that is more robust, and possibly
less confusing, than this idiotic idiom. I think it may start appearing in
docs and training.
...or even better...
&dtml.-some_method;
...wh
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