RE: [Zope] HELP: problems with ZServer Medusa!

2000-05-24 Thread Seb Bacon
does /usr/Zope-2.2.0a1-src/var/z2.pid exist? if not, touch z2.pid and try again. seb. > Hi All, > I have installed Zope on a Linux server (Slackware 7.0) apparently > without problems; but, when I start the server with the command: > ./start, I have in continuous this message error: > -- >

[Zope] Reloading products

2000-05-24 Thread Seb Bacon
newbie time: I'm trying to write a product AlbumImage which extends Image to include a thumbnail. I was determined to slog it out without begging for help, but I've come up against a very strange brick wall. I'm getting problems with an import statement at the beginning of my product from OFS.Pr

RE: [Zope] Reloading products

2000-05-24 Thread Seb Bacon
in the ZODB? Ek I'm confused. Seb. > -Original Message- > From: Chris Withers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 24 May 2000 21:03 > To: Seb Bacon > Cc: Zope Users > Subject: Re: [Zope] Reloading products > > > Seb Bacon wrote: > >(n.b. is >

[Zope] ZOBD caching products?

2000-06-19 Thread Seb Bacon
Ladies and gentlemen, Some time ago I wrote to the list to ask for help on a product reloading issue. I'm still banging my head against it now, so i'm restating the problem again in the hope someone can help: I have a very simple product (and it works!) Any changes I make don't get reflected in

[Zope] request for advice

2000-07-21 Thread Seb Bacon
Hello folks, I'm just beginning to design my first big Zope application. I'm writing to ask zopististitiatatas for some advice, since I'm a bit of a newbie and I want to make sure: [a] I reuse as much code as possible [b] I make my code as reusable as possible [c] my application is stable and

Re: [Zope] tracebacks

2000-08-01 Thread Seb Bacon
A) your SQL is wrong, you want a VARCHAR not a CHAR there. and i doubt 'NOW' is a valid value for a TIMESTAMP type in your DB. You'll be wanting a SQL function like Date(), not a string. Probably. Look in your DB docs. Not that I'm much of a SQL person - someone else will probably correct me.

RE: [Zope] Requested Zope feature

2000-08-09 Thread Seb Bacon
yup, this is how i work too. how about adding some javascript to the manage_* methods that reload the related window (if it's open) whenever the source changes, too? a problem with this might be ending up with a mass of windows all over your desktop, which is invariably horrible. otoh, there'

RE: [Zope] Requested Zope feature

2000-08-10 Thread Seb Bacon
> I am currently implementing Skinnable objects for Zope > that'll allow you to > easily define an alternative version of the management > interface, and switch > between these interfaces very easily. You could build your > own version that > doesn't use JavaScript at all. this is fantastic ne

RE: [Zope] file uploading from IE browser

2000-08-11 Thread Seb Bacon
What's the HTML you're using for the upload? > > Hi All, > > I'ved followed the online How-To on implementing a simple service for > parsing uploaded files via the browser. But strangely, it > only works for > Netscape browsers. When I test the uploading using IE, the > supposed file > obj

Re: [Zope] personal portal and Palm syncronization

2000-09-25 Thread seb bacon
Yes, this has been on my wish list for some time, but there's no way I'm going to get round to it right now... Take a look at pilot-link (http://sourceforge.net/projects/pilot-link) for interfaces to the mail, todo, etc software on your palm. This will only really deal with workstation -> palm s

RE: [Zope] Product Testing

2000-10-05 Thread Seb Bacon
http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/Refresh is the only way I know of to take away the pain of testing products. Seb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nestor A. Diaz L. Sent: 05 October 2000 01:06 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Zope] Prod

[Zope] Base ZClass propertysheet management

2000-10-06 Thread Seb Bacon
I've got a ZClass "A" that subclasses another ZClass "B". I can use the default propertysheets/B/manage method to update B's properties; but how do I access the properties of A through the management interface? Many thanks Seb. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [Zope] Base ZClass propertysheet management

2000-10-06 Thread Seb Bacon
Thanks, I'll rephrase it using my real life problem: I have a Picture class, which comprises image, title, description, etc. I also have a ProductItem class, which subclasses Picture to include a price, etc. So finally I have got a ProductItem class, which has a title, image, price, ... I can

[Zope] overriding __str__ method?

2000-10-08 Thread Seb Bacon
Hi, What I'd really like to do is have inline content-management. I don't know if I'm completely up the wrong tree, and some advice would be much appreciated. My reason: Correct me if I'm wrong, but the zope security model does not allow me exclude an authenticated user from knowing that an app

[Zope] security quickie

2000-10-09 Thread Seb Bacon
Does Zope security provide a way of restricting what objects are listed to an authenticated user inside the Zope 'manage' interface? I'm getting my head all twisted up over this security / proxy roles /local roles lark. Thanks, seb ___ Zope maillist

RE: [Zope] overriding __str__ method?

2000-10-09 Thread Seb Bacon
> ... > > The action method of this form sets the REQUEST variables to the > property names: > ... > > ... > (I generally use the same names for form vars and property names > to avoid confusing myself) > > then: > > > Does this help? > > > > Seb Ba

RE: [Zope] Animated GIFs

2000-10-09 Thread Seb Bacon
> > I also tried to name the animGif explicitely animGif.gif instead > of animGif - guessed what? - same problem! > > Any more ideas, please? > have you tried doing a diff on the zope and non-zope versions to see if zzope's somehow mangled it? seb __

RE: [Zope] Animated GIFs

2000-10-09 Thread Seb Bacon
or your diff. is it a browser-related issue? have you tried it in IE & netscape? if you want to send me the gif i'll try it out, when i get some time (tomorrow probably) seb > -Original Message- > From: Lars Heber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 09 October 2

RE: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?

2000-10-09 Thread Seb Bacon
> Hi, > I am still new to zope and am wondering if there is a tell-a-friend > script/product/example floating around for me to look at? If not, > and I made my own form with Zope (which I have not done yet), > what variable would call the existing page the user was on ? > The url of the current

RE: [Zope] dtml-tree advice, please

2000-10-09 Thread Seb Bacon
> I think you mean seb ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.o

RE: [Zope] expr="id <> 'index_html" issue

2000-10-09 Thread Seb Bacon
> > try : > > > > title_or_id> > > > that should be (quotes round id) would also work. This is because sometimes id is a property, sometimes it's a method. The former version would work in every case; the latter only where id is a method. It's annoying, but there'

RE: [Zope] Access Control vs Publishing Protoco

2000-10-10 Thread Seb Bacon
> > This is because the thing which makes > > the problem hard is that something like standard_html_header > wants to be > > editable by Managers TTW, which means it also has to be visible TTW. > > However, it's probably not something you want exposed to anonymous > > users, especially a

RE: [Zope] Quoting

2000-10-10 Thread Seb Bacon
> Quote all characters not allowed in a > cookie wouldn't do the job? That reminds me, it's silly that there's not , so I patched my zope to provide it. I was wondering if there's a mechanism for getting this kind of simple tweak into the source tree? seb __

RE: [Zope] Re: Upload just file headers?

2000-10-11 Thread Seb Bacon
Hmm, well you certainly can't do it at the browser side. A well-formed HTTP header should contain a content-length attribute which you can examine. However, deciding whether to accept the file or not would I imagine not be possible inside zope since the whole POST operation is handled by ZServer

RE: [Zope] int and string comparisons

2000-10-12 Thread Seb Bacon
if you're submitting from a form, you can coerce strings into other data types by giving the form items special names, e.g.: Your REQUEST then has variables called foo and bar which are ints and floats, respectively. also, don't post html mail - not everyone can read it. seb. -Original

[Zope] Content Management System

2000-10-12 Thread Seb Bacon
This query started out in a separate thread about permissions, but it's sufficiently important to me to pose again here. I've been struggling to make the CMS abilities of zope user-friendly enough for 'joe average' end-users. Really it's designed for a 'power' content manager who delegates, secu

RE: [Zope] Access Control vs Publishing Protoco

2000-10-12 Thread Seb Bacon
oops, I forgot to foward my last mail on this subject to the list. My response here to Dieter's response captures contains the main points though... > > > I think, the implementation would be easy. > > > Management, however, would be more difficult, as there are no > > > good defaults for th

RE: [Zope] Access Control vs Publishing Protoco

2000-10-13 Thread Seb Bacon
Oh dear, I fear that this is going round and round and round in circles a bit, and that no-one else is following it, but here goes anyway :> > The "traversable" permission would be an additional requirement > to view any object. Its main purpose would be to distinguish > between "use via Web" and

[Zope] product.dat

2000-10-13 Thread Seb Bacon
In the Zope PTK there are a couple of products that have been packaged as product.dats. What format are these? How do I do it? Cheers seb ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML

RE: [Zope] Dymanic sort="&dtml-a_dtml_var;" in DTML?

2000-10-17 Thread Seb Bacon
I needed to do this a while back and a kind fellow sent me some patches to do just this. Unfortunately my old email is unavailable at the moment, so I've forgotten who it was. The syntax was I'll dig out the patches as send them to you. seb > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECT

RE: [Zope] Hosting?

2000-10-27 Thread Seb Bacon
You could DIY: I bought myself a server (256Mb RAM, 20Gb RAID1, Athlon Thunderbird 850Mhz) and I'm getting it colocated at one of the best-wired places in the UK. The bandwidth can be upped on a month-by-month basis. This way you get full control over everything. My costs: server ?650 (that's a

[Zope] wondering about rendering

2000-10-27 Thread Seb Bacon
A simple question that's been bugging me: Regarding a "FooDocument/BarMethod": How do I reference the content of FooDocument inside BarMethod? At the moment, I'm using which seems to call the __str__ method of FooDocument; or in both view_1 and tableise, I get infinite recursion, of course

RE: [Zope] ZMailIn

2000-10-27 Thread Seb Bacon
It sounds like you're thinking about a project management thing. Depends what you want to do with it, and what your zope setup is, but if you've got enough control over the zope box you're using, you could consider worldpilot + imap. You could customise it to your specific needs, plus have the a

[Zope] product permissions problem

2000-10-29 Thread Seb Bacon
hello all once again, I've got a DTML method in a product, which calls objectValues('Folder') to list some folders that are contained within the product itself. When I try it out inside the product, it works. When I use it as part of the constructor form, called from an other location, I get an

RE: [Zope] Products : dependencies (or who's on first?)

2000-11-02 Thread Seb Bacon
> Okay, here goes : > > I installed the PTK product some time ago, decided that it wasn't where I > needed to be right now and moved on to something else. > > Today I finally decided to delete it from my Products folder. Shortly > afterwards, I noticed that both my existing FlexFAQ and ZDiscussion

RE: [Zope] Help wanted on Zope ZClasses/DTML please.

2000-11-03 Thread Seb Bacon
Hi, just some quick pointers (I'm in a hurry...) refer to http://zdp.zope.org/projects/zqr/ZopeQR for more details > > > What is the correct way to use manage_delObjects? should work. What you wrote looks for an object with id "the_id". In fact you want the value of the_id, which i

RE: [Zope] Can somebody please help me....

2000-11-03 Thread Seb Bacon
> )"> seb. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/

RE: [Zope] Help wanted on Zope ZClasses/DTML please.

2000-11-06 Thread Seb Bacon
> I have worked out thanks to Seb's comments that the problem I > have with the > use of manage_delObjects is (I think) that I am passing in the title or id > of the object to be deleted rather than the object itself. Not quite... manage_delObjects takes a string which is the id of the object to

[Zope] User Source choices

2000-11-07 Thread seb bacon
This is a bit off-topic, but I wondered if anyone has any opinions on the matter. I'm going to use LoginManager for my user folder stuff, and I'm wondering which type of DB to use to store user information. Has anyone any advice about this? Here's some of the free choices with what I know about

RE: [Zope] Python Methods Vote

2000-11-08 Thread Seb Bacon
> Is there any way you can see what the results are looking like without > having to vote again? Don't worry, there's no need actually to count the votes. Despite the fact that this race went right down to the wire, according to my complex computer-based prediction models (based on exit polls a

[Zope] Product removal stress: a plea for help

2000-11-08 Thread seb bacon
If anyone can shed some light on this it would be a great help to the newbies out here. Perhaps I could even do a HOWTO, and lighten the load on the list considerably ;) I don't have a solution to Alexander's problem quoted below, but it's one I keep hitting and one that is frequently asked on

Re: [Zope] Is data.fs corrupted?

2000-11-09 Thread seb bacon
Could I just butt in here and try and clarify what I've understood from this thread so far? I'm feeling a bit dumb about it but I'd really like to sort it out. 1) This problem is definitely a programming error 2) It arises when a product has a component which isn't 'registered' as a zope object,

Re: [Zope] zope.org down from Thu Nov 9 12:00:00 GMT 2000 to present?searchable list archive not linked to from mailman page; console-based zope development. list archive not linked to from mailman page; console-based zope development.

2000-11-09 Thread seb bacon
* Colin Leath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001109 14:00]: > I'm trying to figure out ways of managing/developing with Zope from a > unix console, using text editors, text browsers and so on. I often work from emacs, accessing the ZODB through the Zope FTP Server on port 8021. The syntax for ange-ftp is

Re: [Zope] newbie question

2000-11-09 Thread seb bacon
* Stephan Goeldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001109 16:49]: > > > This is not much! > > > This is ok! > > > This is very much! > > > > I am sure that there is an error in my thinking of these tags. yup :) try This is not much This is OK

Re: [Zope] Is data.fs corrupted?

2000-11-09 Thread seb bacon
* Stephan Goeldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001109 13:30]: > I just asked the question lately, if it is safe to simply delete a Product > in the lib/python/Product folder, if it is not deletable via the > Control_Panel. Some told me that it is no problem. Now I am more unsure to > delete the stuff.

[Zope] bad expression evaluation

2000-11-10 Thread seb bacon
I'm trying to compare two page titles, using this code: &dtml-my_title; : &dtml-get_page_title Now I can see on the page that my_title and get_page_title are the same. I have also tried comparing _.str(my_title) and _.str(get_page_title) just to make sure I was comparing str

[Zope] Authentication

2000-11-14 Thread seb bacon
This is strange: when I type http://www.foo.com/roles as an authenticated user, Zope thinks I'm just an Anonymous user. When I type http://www.foo.com/roles/ It realises I'm authenticated. I'm using Apache / ProxyPass on Zope 2.2.2. Any ideas? seb. _

Re: [Zope] Deleted product breaks SQL_Method Advanced tab - How to fix?

2000-11-14 Thread seb bacon
> > How can I remove this object from the zodb? How do I find it? > > Any idea why SQL_Method even cares about this? there was a longish thread about this recently (search for something like 'Data.fs corrupted?!'). the upshot was, i think, that products that haven't been written carefully ca

[Zope] _delObject errors

2000-11-15 Thread seb bacon
When I try to call self._delObject('foo') from my Product, it seems to work, but I get an error logged: AttributeError: 'string' object has no attribute 'manage_beforeDelete' The offending line is in ObjectManager.py: def _delObject(self, id, dp=1): object=self._getOb(id) t

Re: [Zope] Web mail with POP3

2000-11-16 Thread seb bacon
* Aleksander Salwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001116 09:00]: > I need to build a web mail product with pop3 back-end. > There is WorldPilot, but AFAIK it has no pop3 support. > I'm thinking about taking web inteface/application design from WorldPilot > and writing code to talk to pop3 server (probably b

Re: [Zope] Stupid Installation Question

2000-11-18 Thread seb bacon
* Ben Ocean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001118 09:51]: > Hi; > Okay, hope I did this right... Installed Zope in a directory at doc root > (called zope) and untarred it. Now I have a directory called Zope-2.2.2-src > with a bunch of stuff in it. What do I do from here? How do I see it working? > TIA, >

Re: [Zope] Stupid Installation Question

2000-11-18 Thread seb bacon
* Ben Ocean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001118 09:51]: > Hi; > Okay, hope I did this right... Installed Zope in a directory at doc root > (called zope) and untarred it. Now I have a directory called Zope-2.2.2-src > with a bunch of stuff in it. What do I do from here? How do I see it working? > TIA, >

Re: [Zope] Image Maps

2000-11-20 Thread seb bacon
* CURTIS David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001120 16:46]: > I am looking for information on Image Maps using Zope. I know that you need to use >a CGI script to get the results that you need. The search engine displays some >products that seem similar, but not exactly. Is there a better way? I'd

Re: [Zope] Javascript & dtml tags

2000-11-21 Thread seb bacon
* Kini Natekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001121 07:36]: >Is there a way to include dtml tags with a > javascript ? If there is please let me know. if you mean, you want to insert a dtml tag into a document using javascript, then no. zope's a server-side technology; javascript is client-side. se

Re: [Zope] Support for PHP?

2000-11-22 Thread seb bacon
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001121 21:02]: > > This was discussed about a month ago. check the archive. > > conclusion was that you can do anything with dtml that php does, > though with perhaps a little bit more indirection. and you can do _more_ in python than in php

[Zope] Exception msg rendering

2000-11-22 Thread seb bacon
LoginManager displays a login form by calling a page something like this: this works fine on one of my boxen but not the other. The bust one raises the exception but doesn't print the message. Instead it renders my standard_html_header and standard_html_footer, with th

[Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] SQL-Methods Through-the-FileSystem

2000-11-26 Thread seb bacon
Hi Johan, > Does anybody have a good suggestion how to > develope SQL Method ftfs (through the filesystem) > rather than ttw. > > Perferably in someway similare to the HTMLFile way try something like this: from Products.ZSQLMethods.SQL import SQL import PoPy def manage_add_user(self,em

Re: [Zope] LoginManager Help.

2000-11-26 Thread seb bacon
* Jason C. Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001126 20:46]: > hi, > > So I have LoginManager installed. The easy part. Now I'd like to know how > to use it. To start with, I'd like to authenticate against a standard > acl_users folder or a plane text file w/ username/passwords in it. OK, I've just st

Re: [Zope] newbie question: Redirect from Python?

2000-11-27 Thread seb bacon
* Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001127 19:54]: > I want the user to be sent to a particular URL after calling the > product's manage_add method. How can I do that? > The URL I want is REQUEST['URL3']. > > I've tried RESPONSE.redirect(REQUEST['URL3']) but that's not it - the > RESPONSE doesn't

Re: [Zope] security

2000-11-29 Thread seb bacon
* Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001128 00:12]: > Bowyer, Alex writes: > > Can some one explain how the Define Permissions screen works. I really don't > > understand the concept behind it, what does it mean for a permission setting > > to own a permission? > > > > All I need to do is to

Re: [Zope] VHost logs.

2000-11-30 Thread seb bacon
> In a manner of speaking, yes. That is, Apache needs to have correctly > configured VirtualHost directives to handle the requests from the > outside world appropriately, and Zope needs to have the SiteAccess > product installed with correctly configured SiteRoots and access rules. > It tak

Re: [Zope] ZClass security : a solution

2000-11-30 Thread &#x27;seb bacon'
* Bowyer, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001129 22:21]: > Essentially what we are doing is saying "If you want to View this object, > you have to have the Manage Properties permission" > > There are probably better ways, but if it ain't broke don't fix it. > > I don't understand why you have to choo

Re: [Zope] User mangement

2000-11-30 Thread seb bacon
* Sven B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001130 10:34]: > Zope has a function "get_valid_userids()". > Now my question; > How is it possible to get something like (username;role;path)? sven, refer to the ZQR: http://zdp.zope.org/projects/zqr/ZopeQR and look for the section describing the AUTHENTICAT

RE: [Zope] VHost logs.

2000-11-30 Thread Seb Bacon
> > ServerName www.foobar.com > RewriteEngine on > RewriteRule ^/(.*) https://www.foobar.com/ > of course i actually meant: ServerName www.foobar.com RewriteEngine on RewriteRule ^/(.*) https://www.foobar.com/$1 ___ Zope

Re: [Zope] VHost logs.

2000-12-03 Thread seb bacon
> > mod_rewrite is your friend. You just make a Rule that redirects > > anyone accessing your site on port 80 to port 443, something like > > this: > > > > > > ServerName www.foobar.com > > RewriteEngine on > > RewriteRule ^/(.*)https://www.foobar.com/ > > > > I don't want to fo

[Zope] Fragments of html in IE (Was: Why Not Zope? ...)

2000-12-03 Thread seb bacon
* Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001201 10:46]: > Besides, the zserver on 2.1.6 seems to have bugs that sometimes let > the page only 90% through. I don't know if your 90% problem is the same as the one I've been having, but I'm scratching my head a lot here: When I test my site using IE5.5,

[Zope] IE5 / Medusa bug?

2000-12-14 Thread seb bacon
Tempting fate by claiming a bug...but although I'm sure I'm at fault here, there's no sensible reason for the results I'm getting. When I view one of several different pages with IE5, the last 11 bytes don't reach the browser. I've got a couple of other people to try it out. One of them reporte

Re: [Zope] IE5 / Medusa bug?

2000-12-15 Thread seb bacon
Firstly, apologies for cross-posting - this should probably move over to zope-dev henceforth. Secondly, thanks for the replies. In my small sample, it appears that 3 out of 7 IE browsers got the bug - no other flavours had a problem at all. They were mostly versions 5 and 5.5. If there was any

Re: [Zope] Pesky DateTime problem

2000-12-15 Thread seb bacon
> The problem lies in adding an instance of the job board ZClass at which > point Zope reports an "Invalid Date-Time String". You might have considered this already, but you're not supplying a default date in the DateTime field of the form. This can cause problems, because there's a bug in zop

[Zope] commit_sub error in Product

2001-01-16 Thread seb bacon
I'm writing a minimal product for which I'm getting a Error Type: AttributeError Error Value: commit_sub from the transaction machinery. The traceback's no help. The offending code, however is: class Foo(SimpleItem) def __init__(self, id, title, file): self.file = Image('file

Re: [Zope] Editors [OT]

2001-01-25 Thread seb bacon
> - class browser for python, with expand/collapse of code (like the editor for > Python 2) would http://www.beopen.com/products/oobrowser/oobrowser_overview.html be any use? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/li

Re: [Zope] user creation & authentification

2001-01-29 Thread seb bacon
ralf, > is it possible to create users "not using" the zope management interface ??? > i would like to log in some user with my own login screen or how can i edit > the default userauthentification screens from the browser (Netscape/IE/opera) ? my advice: in order to accomplish the second task

[Zope] CacheManagers are cool :)

2001-01-29 Thread Seb Bacon
I've just been experimenting with the RAM Cache manager, and FWIW I thought I'd share my findings: I ran some simple tests using ab against a single, dynamic page which has some display logic both in the filesystem product and dtml. I cached the index_html using the default RAM Cache Manager set

Re: [Zope] CacheManagers are cool :)

2001-01-29 Thread Seb Bacon
> > I've just been experimenting with the RAM Cache manager, and FWIW I thought > > I'd share my findings: ... > > There was no significant improvement where there were no concurrent > > requests. > > very cool. although i find the lack of improvement on a non concurrent > requests a bit strang

RE: [Zope] CacheManagers are cool :)

2001-01-30 Thread Seb Bacon
> anybody tried expiring an object,? say after 300 secs, the cached object > expires, get invalidated and a new cached object is created when somebody > requested the page. > is there any simple way to expire a RAM Cache? haven't tried this yet. > also, for those who tried caching. what do you