Nick, Thank you! Installing the latest ZPatterns did the trick, exactly as you said. EXcellent. But I still wish I had some way to test the pieces of the application, or to at least trace their operation. ZPatterns is a bit too opaque for my taste, particularly given its complexity, unfamiliarity and immaturity (in the sense of being new and not fully developed). On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 06:12:52PM +1300, Nick McDowell wrote: > I encountered the same problem. I soon realized that the ZPatterns that is > packaged with LoginManger is a version different to the one Dan Pierson > mentions in his article. -- Fred Yankowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +1.630.879.1312 Principal Consultant www.OntoSys.com fax: +1.630.879.1370 OntoSys, Inc 38W242 Deerpath Rd, Batavia, IL 60510, USA _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )