Re: [Zope] Questions on ZODB BTrees versus bsddb BTrees

2006-05-08 Thread Chris Withers
Terry Jones wrote: That's 3 times where I somehow get to be in the wrong for taking the time to point out that a piece of documentation in the project is quite misleading. You didn't say you thought it was misleading, you worded it as if you expected it to still be true. A small difference may

Re: [Zope] Questions on ZODB BTrees versus bsddb BTrees

2006-05-05 Thread Terry Jones
> "Chris" == Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Chris> Terry Jones wrote: >> Usually you find database records by means of the record's key. >> However, the key that you use for your record will not always contain >> the information required to provide you with rapid access to the data >

Re: [Zope] Questions on ZODB BTrees versus bsddb BTrees

2006-05-05 Thread Terry Jones
Hi Chris Yesterday you said: Chris> Not everything is as hard as some people manage to make it ;-) And today this | >> | $ cd Zope-2.0.0a3-src/ | Chris> And what version of Zope are we on now? and | Chris> But really, with Open Source, it's up to you to be the judge. If a That's 3 tim

Re: [Zope] Questions on ZODB BTrees versus bsddb BTrees

2006-05-05 Thread Chris Withers
Terry Jones wrote: |ZCatalog can be downloaded from the Zope download area and is also a |module in the public CVS for Zope. Untar it while in the root directory |of your Zope installation: | | $ cd Zope-2.0.0a3-src/ And what version of Zope are we on now? | $ tar xz

Re: [Zope] Questions on ZODB BTrees versus bsddb BTrees

2006-05-05 Thread Chris Withers
Terry Jones wrote: Usually you find database records by means of the record's key. However, the key that you use for your record will not always contain the information required to provide you with rapid access to the data that you want to retrieve. Ah, okay, you do this with m

Re: [Zope] Questions on ZODB BTrees versus bsddb BTrees

2006-05-04 Thread Terry Jones
[Following up on my original posting, with a summary of resolution.] Thanks for the help & pointers to ZCatalog. I actually did find a standalone version of ZCatalog, created by Kevin Dangoor, at http://www.blazingthings.com/dev/zcatalog.html His pulls code out of Zope3, and rewrites some of it.

Re: [Zope] Questions on ZODB BTrees versus bsddb BTrees

2006-05-04 Thread Terry Jones
> "Chris" == Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Chris> ZCatalog ships as a standard part of Zope, no need to download. Chris> It's covered extensively in the zope book on Plope.org... Chris> Not everything is as hard as some people manage to make it ;-) OK, thanks. I hope you'll agree

Re: [Zope] Questions on ZODB BTrees versus bsddb BTrees

2006-05-04 Thread Chris Withers
Terry Jones wrote: I've just spent 20 minutes trying to do this, without success. So if someone has a URL for a ZCatalog download, I'd be happy to receive it. ZCatalog ships as a standard part of Zope, no need to download. It's covered extensively in the zope book on Plope.org... Not everythi

Re: [Zope] Questions on ZODB BTrees versus bsddb BTrees

2006-05-04 Thread Terry Jones
Hi Jonathan > "Jonathan" == Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jonathan> This usage scenario can easily be implemented using ZCatalog (as Jonathan> Chris mentioned) - check the ZopeBook for info. Thanks, that sounds good. Without meaning to whine, I hope it's easier to use than it is to

Re: [Zope] Questions on ZODB BTrees versus bsddb BTrees

2006-05-04 Thread Jonathan
From the Berkeley DB docs: Usually you find database records by means of the record's key. However, the key that you use for your record will not always contain the information required to provide you with rapid access to the data that you want to retrieve. For example, suppose y

Re: [Zope] Questions on ZODB BTrees versus bsddb BTrees

2006-05-04 Thread Terry Jones
Hi Chris > "Chris" == Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: You may Chris> have more joy with these questions on the zodb-dev@zope.org mailing Chris> list... Thanks, I've re-sent. Thanks for the other comments & pointers too. Regards Terry. >> - ZODB BTrees do not allow you to set up s

Re: [Zope] Questions on ZODB BTrees versus bsddb BTrees

2006-05-04 Thread Chris Withers
Terry Jones wrote: I've just read the ZODB/ZEO Programming Guide (Release 3.6.0, A.M. Kuchling, January 5, 2006) and I'd like to ask a few questions. Are the following all correct? You may have more joy with these questions on the zodb-dev@zope.org mailing list... - The BTrees supported b

[Zope] Questions on ZODB BTrees versus bsddb BTrees

2006-05-03 Thread Terry Jones
I've just read the ZODB/ZEO Programming Guide (Release 3.6.0, A.M. Kuchling, January 5, 2006) and I'd like to ask a few questions. Are the following all correct? - The BTrees supported by ZODB have nothing to do with Berkeley DB Btrees (apart from the fact that they're both implementations of