Re: [Zope-CMF] Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 25.09.2007 um 02:05 schrieb Tres Seaver: I'd like to break the remaining CMF packages out (moving from '/ CMF' to 'Products.CMFCore', 'Products.CMFDefault', etc.) and push the 2.1.0 eggs out, as well as equivalent changes for PluggableAuthService and PluginRegistry. Any objections, or ot

[Zope-CMF] Re: Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Charlie Clark wrote: Am 25.09.2007 um 02:05 schrieb Tres Seaver: I'd like to break the remaining CMF packages out (moving from '/CMF' to 'Products.CMFCore', 'Products.CMFDefault', etc.) and push the 2.1.0 eggs out, as well as equivalent changes for PluggableAuthService and PluginRegistry. Any

[Zope-CMF] CMF Collector: Open Issues

2007-09-25 Thread tseaver
The following supporters have open issues assigned to them in this collector (http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF). Assigned and Open tseaver - "CMF needs View-based TypeInformation", [Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/437 - "CachingPolicyManager awareness of File and

[Zope-CMF] Re: GenericSetup: How to use upgradeStep?

2007-09-25 Thread Maurits van Rees
Hi, I've been on vacation I took my time answering. Rob Miller, on 2007-09-06: > okay, here's where things get off track. in GenericSetup, there is no such > thing (yet, perhaps) as an "upgrade profile". it's possible to define an > extension profile and to USE it as part of an upgrade proces

[Zope-CMF] Re: Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: > On Sep 25, 2007, at 3:40 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > >> Charlie Clark wrote: >>> Am 25.09.2007 um 02:05 schrieb Tres Seaver: I'd like to break the remaining CMF packages out (moving from '/ CMF' to 'Pro

[Zope-CMF] Re: [Zope-PAS] Re: Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 25 Sep 2007, at 13:20 , Jim Fulton wrote: On Sep 25, 2007, at 3:40 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Charlie Clark wrote: Am 25.09.2007 um 02:05 schrieb Tres Seaver: I'd like to break the remaining CMF packages out (moving from '/ CMF' to 'Products.CMFCore', 'Products.CMFDefault', etc.)

[Zope-CMF] CMF Tests: 11 OK

2007-09-25 Thread CMF Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the cmf-tests list. Period Mon Sep 24 12:00:00 2007 UTC to Tue Sep 25 12:00:00 2007 UTC. There were 11 messages: 11 from CMF Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : CMF-1.5 Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: CMF Unit Tests Date: Mon Sep 24 21:25:48 EDT 2

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: [Zope-PAS] Re: Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > On 25 Sep 2007, at 13:20 , Jim Fulton wrote: > >On Sep 25, 2007, at 3:40 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > > > >>Charlie Clark wrote: > >>>Am 25.09.2007 um 02:05 schrieb Tres Seaver: > I'd like to break the remaining CMF packages out (moving fr

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Tres Seaver wrote: > Jim Fulton wrote: > > On Sep 25, 2007, at 3:40 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > > > >> Charlie Clark wrote: > >>> Am 25.09.2007 um 02:05 schrieb Tres Seaver: > I'd like to break the remaining CMF packages out (moving from '/ > CMF' to > 'Produc

[Zope-CMF] Known working sets II [was: Eggification redux]

2007-09-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
(Also CCing zope3-dev where the first known working set discussion started a while ago) Tres Seaver wrote: This is the "known good" problem. I'm pretty convinced that adding some kind of "PyPI subset", where gardeners for a given "package set" keep the list of packages / versions known to work

[Zope-CMF] Re: [Zope-PAS] Re: Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 25 Sep 2007, at 14:06 , Jim Fulton wrote: There are several problems. * We've had to nail some of the versions because buildout was being a bit over-zealous when getting eggs on Windows. It would take the newest egg, despite the fact that other eggs had binary releases. I guess that's n

[Zope-CMF] Re: Known working sets II [was: Eggification redux]

2007-09-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (CC'ing the Python distutils list, which is where setuptools development is discussed; maybe I should be including the catalog-sig too, but I don't read that list). Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > (Also CCing zope3-dev where the first known workin

Re: [Zope-CMF] Known working sets II [was: Eggification redux]

2007-09-25 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 25.09.2007 um 14:06 schrieb Philipp von Weitershausen: * A versions.cfg that's loaded via HTTP. zc.buildout actually supports this now which makes it quite appealing. Also, far as I know, all major deployers of Zope3 that use zc.buildout for deployment use this form of pinning egg versi

[Zope-CMF] Re: Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: * When package A depends on Y and package B also depends on Y, but with some version restrictions, buidout will first try to get the newest version of Y when installing A. But then when installing B, it is l

[Zope-CMF] Re: Known working sets II [was: Eggification redux]

2007-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tres Seaver wrote: [snip] This is certainly an interesting approach. I'd be curious how you would garden this known working set. Martijn makes a pretty good case for maintaining such working sets close to the package in question (e.g. the grok egg, the Plone egg, etc.). I would argue that thi

[Zope-CMF] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Known working sets II [was: Eggification redux]

2007-09-25 Thread Dieter Maurer
Martijn Faassen wrote at 2007-9-25 17:22 +0200: > ... >Should we then encourage everyone to hardcode version numbers in their >setup.py's dependencies list? I think this goes against building applications from components -- as it drastically increases the probability of conflicts. Components shou

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: GenericSetup: How to use upgradeStep?

2007-09-25 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 9/25/07, Maurits van Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When you want to remove an index or column you can do that by editing > the profile and adding remove="True" to that index or column. So this > upgrade can be represented as a profile edit. But applying the > profile will empty the remaini