[Zope-CMF] List available on groups.google.com

2007-02-05 Thread Rocky Burt
Just dropping a note to say that since I couldn't find an already registered groups.google.com archive of the cmf mailing list I went ahead and created one. You can see it here: http://groups.google.com/group/zope-cmf-dev - Rocky ___ Zope-CMF maillis

[Zope-CMF] Re: Tools as local utilities

2007-02-05 Thread Rocky Burt
On Feb 2, 4:41 pm, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, sounds good, I misunderstood your email. I suppose the last bit > left to do now is the custom site manager. Rocky? :) Yep, looks like I'll be starting on five.localsitemanager pretty soon. Although I didn't see if we decided anyw

[Zope-CMF] Re: Adding python packages to ProductsPath

2007-01-23 Thread Rocky Burt
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > The patch below fixes this by adding $INSTANCE_HOME/lib/python to the > ProductsPaths list. This allows minimalpath to find python packages installed > there. > > Are there any objections to commiting this to trunk? I know we've had some larger discussions on this list re

[Zope-CMF] Re: [CMF 2.1] PersistentComponents is not enough

2007-01-15 Thread Rocky Burt
c.. It could possibly be included into the Zope 2.11 release. If no one else has started this I'll probably pick up this work sometime this week with the aim of at least having it included in Plone 3.0 - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com News About The Serv

[Zope-CMF] Re: Re: [CMF 2.1] PersistentComponents is not enough

2007-01-09 Thread Rocky Burt
As time goes on and Zope plays with python "sensibly" more and more, this will become more and more of an issue for CMF as well. - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com News About The Server (blog) -- http://www.serverzen.net signature.asc Description: Thi

[Zope-CMF] Re: [CMF 2.1] PersistentComponents is not enough

2007-01-08 Thread Rocky Burt
e used by CMF 2.1, Plone > 3, etc.. It could possibly be included into the Zope 2.11 release. This would be the best approach (creating five.localsitemanager) in my opinion. But, this means CMF will either require (or distribute) five.localsitemanager. (Plone will have the same issue) I'm no

[Zope-CMF] Re: [CMF 2.1] FSPageTemplate & Unicode

2007-01-06 Thread Rocky Burt
y/tool is evil. But > But maybe I'm just in a bit too cautious mood right now ;) It does seem that way ;) Regards, Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com News About The Server (blog) -- http://www.serverzen.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally sign

[Zope-CMF] Re: Re: Zope 3 events from workflow

2006-12-27 Thread Rocky Burt
On Wed, 2006-27-12 at 11:46 +0100, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > P.S.: I _hate hate hate_ doctests ;) Why? -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com News About The Server (blog) -- http://www.serverzen.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message p

[Zope-CMF] Re: Tools as local utilities

2006-11-19 Thread Rocky Burt
On Sun, 2006-19-11 at 12:59 -0500, Tres Seaver wrote: > Rocky Burt wrote: > > But we shouldn't have to specify ``context=site`` should we? > > getUtility should automatically figure out what the nearest chain of > > sites should be and look for local uti

[Zope-CMF] Re: Tools as local utilities

2006-11-19 Thread Rocky Burt
e out what the nearest chain of sites should be and look for local utilities in each one of them automatically no? - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com News About The Server (blog) -- http://www.serverzen.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

[Zope-CMF] Re: Tools as local utilities

2006-09-10 Thread Rocky Burt
gh to describe the exact necessary getUtility call. In other words use "getToolByName(context, 'portal_properties') has been deprecated, please use getUtility(IPropertiesTool) instead" rather than the confusing "getToolByName has been deprecated, please use getUtility instead&

[Zope-CMF] Re: Tools as local utilities

2006-09-10 Thread Rocky Burt
ommunity is concerned having CMF 2.1 require Zope 2.10 would be no problem since the next release of Plone will require Zope 2.10. Of course I'm not going to be naive enough to think just because it's ok for the Plone community it's good enough for all other CMF consu

[Zope-CMF] Re: DirectoryView, GenericSetup/skins, CMF 2.1

2006-07-13 Thread Rocky Burt
Hi Yuppie, Just checking in to see if you got any of this put in place yet. Also hoping you can identify anything I need to do to ensure I can use skins with productless products :) - Rocky On Sun, 2006-09-07 at 21:59 +0200, yuppie wrote: > Hi Rocky! > > > Rocky Burt wrote: >

[Zope-CMF] Re: DirectoryView, GenericSetup/skins, CMF 2.1

2006-07-09 Thread Rocky Burt
n", but I guess we can live without > support for that rare case until we remove the BBB code. Well, if we switch to colon's to separate package from relative path then we could still support the old and new way with no masking necessary (ie "Products.MyProduct:skins/my_skin)

[Zope-CMF] Re: DirectoryView, GenericSetup/skins, CMF 2.1

2006-07-08 Thread Rocky Burt
On Sat, 2006-08-07 at 17:46 -0230, Rocky Burt wrote: > On Sat, 2006-08-07 at 15:30 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Rocky Burt wrote: > > > > > I'm currently investigating registering Director

[Zope-CMF] Re: DirectoryView, GenericSetup/skins, CMF 2.1

2006-07-08 Thread Rocky Burt
On Sat, 2006-08-07 at 15:30 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Rocky Burt wrote: > > > I'm currently investigating registering DirectoryView's from regular > > python packages with GenericSetup+skins.xml. After

[Zope-CMF] DirectoryView, GenericSetup/skins, CMF 2.1

2006-07-08 Thread Rocky Burt
se skins from py packages that is b/w compatible with the current approach? Thanks, Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com News About The Server (blog) -- http://www.serverzen.net signature.asc Description: This is a digi

[Zope-CMF] Re: zLOG -> logging

2006-06-07 Thread Rocky Burt
On Wed, 2006-07-06 at 18:26 +0200, Florent Guillaume wrote: > Is it ok if I change CMF 1.6 (currently in beta) to use the logging > module instead of zLOG? > zLOG spouts lots of warnings under Zope 2.10 and this sucks. +1 -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen

[Zope-CMF] Re: Products-less python package support for CMF 1.6

2006-06-04 Thread Rocky Burt
On Sun, 2006-04-06 at 18:12 +0200, yuppie wrote: > Rocky Burt wrote: > > > > As of Five 1.4, the Five specific functionality has been merged into > > Five itself. As of Zope 2.10, the Zope specific functionality has been > > merged into Zope itself. So all that remai

[Zope-CMF] Products-less python package support for CMF 1.6

2006-06-04 Thread Rocky Burt
in time for CMF1.6.1 beta2 ? Regards, Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com News About The Server (blog) -- http://www.serverzen.net Index: CHANGES.txt === --- CHANGES.txt (revision 68481) +++ CHANGES.t

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF-1.6.1-beta released

2006-06-03 Thread Rocky Burt
n packages. What do you think? Would it be acceptable to include this into CMF 1.6.1 ? (or 1.6.2? or?) - Rocky ps. pythonproducts also used to patch Zope itself but these patches are now included in Zope 2.10 proper. -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com News A

[Zope-CMF] CMF providing support for add forms?

2006-05-31 Thread Rocky Burt
Hi all, I was wondering if CMF does or is planning on implementing support for add forms for content. If so, would someone mind explaining how it works? If not, why not? :) - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com News About The Server (blog) -- http

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-26 Thread Rocky Burt
But I have no time to work on something better. > > Nor I. CMF can't do more than Zope2 / Zope3 / Five will support. Well, there is also zope.webdev (z3-only right now). Last time I worked on that with Stephan and Bernd we had it to a point where you could c

[Zope-CMF] adding items to the TALES namespace for actions

2006-04-08 Thread Rocky Burt
y patching CMFCore.Expression.createExprContext ? Or perhaps suggest a different way of accomplishing what we need? Thanks, Rocky -- Rocky Burt AdaptiveWave - Content Management as a Service http://www.adaptivewave.com Content Management Made Simple __

[Zope-CMF] Re: bug on CMFonFive trunk

2006-01-22 Thread Rocky Burt
Rocky Burt wrote: > ... I'm getting a > problem (this error *does not* occur with the released version of > CMFonFive 1.3.1)... Whoops, I meant released version of 1.3.0 - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com ServerZen Hosting -- http://www.server

[Zope-CMF] bug on CMFonFive trunk

2006-01-22 Thread Rocky Burt
17, in do_insertTranslation * Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 281, in interpret * Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 541, in do_insertText_tal * Module cgi, line 1039, in escape AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'replace' - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen So

[Zope-CMF] Re: [z3-five] [Part 2] RFC: backporting including python-package-product support to support Zope 2.8

2006-01-19 Thread Rocky Burt
Lennart Regebro wrote: > On 1/19/06, Rocky Burt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I would like to include the necessary CMF monkey patches on CMFonFive >>trunk (which will either be CMFonFive 1.3.1 or CMFonFive 1.4.0 -- could >>someone clarify the state of the trunk for

[Zope-CMF] Re: Move GenericSetup out of CMF

2006-01-17 Thread Rocky Burt
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > > OK, all done now. > > jens Hmm... I think you forgot to do the svn:externals for CMF 1.6 branch too? (was GenericSetup removed from there as well?) - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com ServerZen Hos

[Zope-CMF] Re: future of getToolByName

2006-01-16 Thread Rocky Burt
the standard zope3 way of looking up utilities. Just my opinion of course. - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com ServerZen Hosting -- http://www.serverzenhosting.net News About The Server -- http://www.serverzen.net __

[Zope-CMF] Re: RFC: backporting including python-package-product support to support Zope 2.8

2006-01-16 Thread Rocky Burt
no need for the monkies in Basket (or possibly even Basket itself) or this Five work. - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com ServerZen Hosting -- http://www.serverzenhosting.net News About The Server -- http://www.serverzen.net

[Zope-CMF] Re: GenericSetup zcml registration of profiles

2006-01-16 Thread Rocky Burt
amespaces.zope.org/genericsetup'? Ohh, could I state the obvious and suggest the default namespace prefix for genericsetup should be "setup" ? :) - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com ServerZen Hosting -- http://ww

[Zope-CMF] Re: RFC: backporting including python-package-product support to support Zope 2.8

2006-01-16 Thread Rocky Burt
Martijn Faassen wrote: > Then again, I'm not absolutely against continuing the Five 1.2 line with > new features. How to name it is indeed tricky. Perhaps in favor of > comprehensibility we just want to name it 1.2.1, even though we add new > features. +1 -- Rocky Burt S

[Zope-CMF] Re: RFC: backporting including python-package-product support to support Zope 2.8

2006-01-16 Thread Rocky Burt
if it does exist. - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com ServerZen Hosting -- http://www.serverzenhosting.net News About The Server -- http://www.serverzen.net ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mai

[Zope-CMF] Re: RFC: backporting including python-package-product support to support Zope 2.8

2006-01-16 Thread Rocky Burt
rity will use zope 2.8 -- based on experience with Plone 2.1 supporting Zope 2.7 and 2.8 where most Plone 2.1 installs still seem to use Zope 2.7. I'm not a great debater by any means so I'll finish this with one more reason as to why and make Zope 2.8 support this functionality -- beca

[Zope-CMF] Re: RFC: backporting including python-package-product support to support Zope 2.8

2006-01-16 Thread Rocky Burt
MF 2.0 changes too many things -- because of the plethora of existing plone products out there and the pains that people are going through porting them from Plone 2.0 -> 2.1, the Plone community is striving to not do the same thing going from Plone 2.1 -> 2.5 - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen

[Zope-CMF] Re: RFC: backporting including python-package-product support to support Zope 2.8

2006-01-15 Thread Rocky Burt
before they can build plone python-packages-as-products. (Plone 2.5 will be the first Plone version to use CMF 1.6 and isn't scheduled for final release until May 8) - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com ServerZen Hosting -- http://www.serverzenhosting.net News Abo

[Zope-CMF] Re: [z3-five] Re: RFC: products-less python packages as zope2 products

2006-01-14 Thread Rocky Burt
t.org/ > ___ > Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf > > See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests > -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -

[Zope-CMF] Re: [Plone-developers] Re: Re: The components of Archetypes

2006-01-13 Thread Rocky Burt
s obviously desirable. Thankfully zope3 provides a lot of the starting functionality (or at least a lot more than zope2 did). - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com ServerZen Hosting -- http://www.serverzenhosting.net News About The Server -- http://www.serverzen

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF 2.0 Release Status

2006-01-12 Thread Rocky Burt
ion, I happen to know some of the brightest Zope minds are brainstorming on these things :) - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com ServerZen Hosting -- http://www.serverzenhosting.net News About The Server -- http://www.serverz

[Zope-CMF] Re: The components of Archetypes

2006-01-09 Thread Rocky Burt
Rocky Burt wrote: > 1) Ease of development - AT helps cut down on boilerplate code > as compared to building a regular CMF type (without AT) > > 2) Schema - The ability to declare which fields a content type has > and what "types" those fields are > >

[Zope-CMF] Re: Reference Engine Componentization

2006-01-09 Thread Rocky Burt
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[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF 1.6 change broke Plone compatibility

2005-12-21 Thread Rocky Burt
>= 2.8.5 > Five >= 1.2 > > So I got a Zope-2.8.5-final only to realize later that > this ships with Five-1.0.2 :-( > Your best bet is to install Zope 2.8.5-final and then install Five 1.2b (in your instance home Products dir). Not sure what other troubles Zope 2.9b1 would b

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF 1.6 change broke Plone compatibility

2005-12-21 Thread Rocky Burt
st a heads-up so you > non-Plone people don't get confused about 2.2 vs. 2.5 when we talk > about it later. :) > -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com ServerZen Hosting -- http://www.serverzenhosting.net News About The Server -- http://www.serverzen.net _

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMFSetup, getting started

2005-11-19 Thread Rocky Burt
I forgot to mention that I'm trying to get started with CMFSetup in CMF 1.5 as my current deployment platform happens to be Plone 2.1.1. Hopefully most of CMFSetup's (from CMF 1.5) functionality is migratable into CMF 2.0. - Rocky Rocky Burt wrote: Hi CMF'ers, With all t

[Zope-CMF] CMFSetup, getting started

2005-11-19 Thread Rocky Burt
etup? Are there any docs out there that describe how to get going with CMFSetup? Thanks, Rocky ps. Raphael, it would be phenomenal if your MySite tutorial could be extended to cover something like this. -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com Serve