Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-24 Thread Chris Withers
Stuart Bishop wrote: silence it (and open a bug report at the same time). The noisier test output is, the more likely you are to miss relevant information. Totally agreed, I was kinda shocked at how many deprecation errors Zope 2.9 ships with :-( Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zo

Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-23 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: > Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > >> Tres Seaver wrote: >> >>> I'm not sure what Chris meant, but the change to the visual output of >>> the testrunner when running "with dots" seems gratuitous to me, as well >>> -- I don't see

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-23 Thread Chris Withers
Martijn Faassen wrote: Anyway, a release and the development situation looking similar helps people actually work on the same codebase and structure, and not having to learn different ways of doing things as soon as they switch. Forcing context switches on people isn't a good idea. Huge +1 fr

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-23 Thread Chris Withers
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: I'm not sure what Chris meant, but the change to the visual output of the testrunner when running "with dots" seems gratuitous to me, as well -- I don't see any benefit to the "indented, narrower" output, Me neither, for what it's worth. Ok

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-23 Thread Chris Withers
Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 21 March 2006 02:54, Chris Withers wrote: I particularly hate the fact that no real effort was put into backwards compatibility, not to mention those silly weird sort-of-fifty-dots-per-line thing that doesn't actually work. I think this is not fair. Jim has tr

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-22 Thread Paul Winkler
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 06:25:41PM +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Anyway, a release and the development situation looking similar helps > people actually work on the same codebase and structure, and not having > to learn different ways of doing things as soon as they switch. Forcing > context s

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-22 Thread Chris Withers
Jim Fulton wrote: From the old testrunner, which I miss *a lot*, I could ensure I am indeed running a specific module by doing... Yup, this is one of the things I like least from the Zope 3 world. What happened to proposals and community agreement before inflicting big changes on other peopl

Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-22 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What's really depressing about this is that we are spending so much energy and angst over the layout of dots. That's probably because it is perceived as "yet another thing that has randomly changed/was broken fin 2.9". The "energy and angst" is

Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-22 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 22 Mar 2006, at 06:15, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I still don't understand why people whine about "make install" being gone. The point of a checkout is that you have a full functional SVN working copy, not an installation source. If you wan

Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: > I'm not sure what Chris meant, but the change to the visual output of > the testrunner when running "with dots" seems gratuitous to me, as well > -- I don't see any benefit to the "indented, narrower" output, Me neither, for what it's worth. > Zope 2.9 broke the 'confiugre-ma

Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-21 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: > Chris Withers wrote: > >> Jens Vagelpohl wrote: >> >>> >>> From the old testrunner, which I miss *a lot*, I could ensure I am >>> indeed running a specific module by doing... >> >> >> >> Yup, this is one of the things I like least

Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-21 Thread Chris Withers
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: From the old testrunner, which I miss *a lot*, I could ensure I am indeed running a specific module by doing... Yup, this is one of the things I like least from the Zope 3 world. What happened to proposals and community agreement before inflicting big changes on other

[Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-20 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm working on CMFCalendar and running the tests out of the instance home like this: bin/zopectl test -m CMFCalendar -vv This runs tests, according to the output, but apparently not how or where I think it should. No .pyc files appear in the te