Re: [Zope-dev] Serving big files thru zope?

2004-03-01 Thread Dieter Maurer
Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote at 2004-3-1 08:24 +0100: > ... >Is the current state of ZServer such that it is suboptimal for serving >large files? if so, > >a) what is the problem with the current implementation? In order to reduce memory consumption and decouple Zope from ZServer (and the response de

Re: [Zope-dev] server for new protocol?

2004-03-01 Thread Nikolay Kim
it'll be open source. source in attach. it not very usefull without additional products that must actually handle emails. now i'm working on mail storage products. > Ooh! This is really cool. Will this be open source? I'll be a lot of people > will be interested in this. > > > -Fred

[Zope-dev] running test.py with instance_home products.

2004-03-01 Thread Chris McDonough
Has anyone found a reasonable strategy for using Zope's test.py to test products that are installed outside the Zope software home? I try running it from the software home and using the --dir option to point it to where my product is, but it tells me it can't find any tests. - C __

Re: [Zope-dev] Custom class: cut,copy,rename?

2004-03-01 Thread Max M
Ian Beatty wrote: > Am I not inheriting from the proper set of base classes? Is there an easier > way? According to the ZDG (2.4 edition, vs. my Zope 2.7), > OFS.SimpleItem.Item (subclassed by OFS.SimpleItem.SimpleItem) is supposed to > provide cut-and-paste functionality. So, how might I be bre

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.X BIG Session problems - blocker - our site dies - need help of experience Zope developer, please

2004-03-01 Thread Chris McDonough
Er, yes... I wrote it. I think you might have mixed up message headers, as I was the one who sent the message out to the list announcing it. On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 18:30, Steve Jibson wrote: > Chris, > > I'm not sure if you'd even planned to, but have you looked over this > replacement "Transie

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.X BIG Session problems - blocker - our site dies - need help of experience Zope developer, please

2004-03-01 Thread Steve Jibson
Doh! Scrap my last message. I was confused. The file he's testing is the one Chris wrote (so I guess he's seen it, duh). Chris McDonough wrote: I installed new Transience.py. During my little test it works fine. But real test will be on Monday when students start logging in as complete class

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.X BIG Session problems - blocker - our site dies - need help of experience Zope developer, please

2004-03-01 Thread Steve Jibson
Chris, I'm not sure if you'd even planned to, but have you looked over this replacement "Transience.py"? Do you have an opinion on the re-implementation? I plan on looking over it myself, but even if I like it, I'd sleep better while it runs on my customer's servers if I knew it had your "bl

[Zope-dev] Slow FTP Downloads - Zope 2.6.4, 2.7

2004-03-01 Thread Edward Pollard
Some of you might recognize this thread from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. With great reluctance smothered by desperation I thought it might be fruitful to disseminate it on this list as well. We have been using Zope 2.6.0 for some time. When we decided an upgrade was in order (to get awa

[Zope-dev] Re: Custom class: cut,copy,rename?

2004-03-01 Thread Ian Beatty
On 2004-03-01 3:44 PM, Chris Withers is reputed to have said: > Ian Beatty wrote: > >> OFS.ObjectManager.ObjectManager >> Products.ZCatalog.CatalogPathAwareness.CatalogAware >> OFS.PropertyManager.PropertyManager >> OFS.SimpleItem.SimpleItem > > I'm pretty sure all you should act

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.X BIG Session problems - blocker - our site dies - need help of experience Zope developer, please

2004-03-01 Thread Chris McDonough
> I installed new Transience.py. During my little test it works fine. > But real test will be on Monday when students start logging in as complete > classes, sometimes there are hundreds of them logging on simultaneously, > so we will see. Any news? ;-) ___

Re: [Zope-dev] Custom class: cut,copy,rename?

2004-03-01 Thread Chris Withers
Ian Beatty wrote: OFS.ObjectManager.ObjectManager Products.ZCatalog.CatalogPathAwareness.CatalogAware OFS.PropertyManager.PropertyManager OFS.SimpleItem.SimpleItem I'm pretty sure all you should actually need is: > OFS.ObjectManager.ObjectManager > Products.ZCatalog.Catalo

[Zope-dev] Re: Usability tweaks

2004-03-01 Thread Casey Duncan
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 20:25:54 + Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > as I'm tweaking stuff here and there right now, I stumbled over the > findSupport dtml that has a multiple select menu with a height of 4. > It's almost impossible to find what you look for easily. Increasing

[Zope-dev] Usability tweaks

2004-03-01 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, as I'm tweaking stuff here and there right now, I stumbled over the findSupport dtml that has a multiple select menu with a height of 4. It's almost impossible to find what you look for easily. Increasing the height to 8 would be good. Anything against that? Christian PS: Anything against si

Re: [Zope-dev] Serving big files thru zope?

2004-03-01 Thread Chris McDonough
I think we should work on making Zope perform better when large files are downloaded at the PyCon sprint in March, as you suggested Paul, FWIW. On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 13:41, Paul Winkler wrote: > On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 01:03:24PM +0100, Dario Lopez-K?sten wrote: > > I am also wondering about the s

[Zope-dev] Custom class: cut,copy,rename?

2004-03-01 Thread Ian Beatty
Greetings. I've created a package in Python with some basic classes. They work in the ZMI, except for the fact that the ZMI paste and rename functionality fails with the message "The object xxx does not support this operation." I've dug into the source code for standard types ('OFS.Folder', 'OFS.

Re: [Zope-dev] Serving big files thru zope?

2004-03-01 Thread Jeremy Hylton
On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 13:41, Paul Winkler wrote: > However, ZEO is a whole other story. > The time to load a 40 MB file from ZEO and serve it, > is about another 10x slower than plain Zope without ZEO. > This is painfully bad and readily apparent to users. > But if your ZEO cache is large enough t

Re: [Zope-dev] Serving big files thru zope?

2004-03-01 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 01:03:24PM +0100, Dario Lopez-K?sten wrote: > I am also wondering about the security aspects of bypassing Zope to > serve files - acess to some of the files we need to serve is restricted > to particular users with particular permissions, and I cannot clearly > see how th

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.7 tutorial

2004-03-01 Thread Chris McDonough
Thank you Christian! On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 12:01, Christian Theune wrote: > Hi, > > gocept hired a new developer and thus I send him dig through the Zope > tutorial at first. He gave me a list of bugs he found in the tutorial > which we corrected here. Therefore I'll update the tutorial in the 2.

RE: [Zope-dev] Serving big files thru zope?

2004-03-01 Thread Sandor Palfy
> I am also wondering about the security aspects of bypassing Zope to > serve files - acess to some of the files we need to serve is > restricted > to particular users with particular permissions, and I cannot clearly > see how this would be possible to accomplish without Zope's security > mac

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.7 tutorial

2004-03-01 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, gocept hired a new developer and thus I send him dig through the Zope tutorial at first. He gave me a list of bugs he found in the tutorial which we corrected here. Therefore I'll update the tutorial in the 2.7 branch in the next days. I'd updated it in 2.8 (HEAD) as well but it is severely br

[Zope-dev] Re: server for new protocol?

2004-03-01 Thread Casey Duncan
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 10:09:36 -0500 Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 29 February 2004 11:21 pm, Nikolay Kim wrote: > > P.S. i'm developing smtp server for zope and already have working > > code. > > Ooh! This is really cool. Will this be open source? I'll be a lot > of people

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Interfaces in Zope 2.5, 2.7, and 3.x

2004-03-01 Thread Jim Fulton
Terry Hancock wrote: I have a product that uses a component/interface model internally. I wrote this against the "scarecrow" Interface module in Zope 2.5.1. Cool. However that module has limitations. One particular one is what I call a "SubInterface" -- which is a special case of Interface.Att

Re: [Zope-dev] server for new protocol?

2004-03-01 Thread Fred Drake
On Sunday 29 February 2004 11:21 pm, Nikolay Kim wrote: > P.S. i'm developing smtp server for zope and already have working code. Ooh! This is really cool. Will this be open source? I'll be a lot of people will be interested in this. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. PythonLabs at Zope Corp

Re: [Zope-dev] Serving big files thru zope?

2004-03-01 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
Stefan H. Holek wrote: Dario, The best solution for me always has been to serve such files statically from Apache, bypassing ZServer altogether. In fact I have added support for static URLs to my version of ExtFile . ZEO clusters will need a comon disk sha

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.X BIG Session problems - blocker - our site dies - need help of experience Zope developer, please

2004-03-01 Thread Anthony Baxter
Chris McDonough wrote: That is very critital and 'blocker' bug for Zope. I do not understand how people could use Zope on a sites with high load.. They don't use sessions under high load. Or they don't use the standard session machinery. We use my SQLSession stuff, and it's fine under load. --

Re: [Zope-dev] Serving big files thru zope?

2004-03-01 Thread Stefan H. Holek
Dario, The best solution for me always has been to serve such files statically from Apache, bypassing ZServer altogether. In fact I have added support for static URLs to my version of ExtFile . ZEO clusters will need a comon disk share (SAMBA, NFS) for this