Re: [Zope-dev] Twice-annual releases and bugfixes?

2006-01-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
Since this particular bug should be circumventable (new word?) by using Five 1.3.1, it's not serious enough to warrant a release by itself, IMO. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts

[Zope-dev] Zope tests: 7 OK, 1 Failed

2006-01-09 Thread Zope tests summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Sun Jan 8 12:01:01 2006 UTC to Mon Jan 9 12:01:01 2006 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Unit Tests. Test failures - Subject: FAILED (errors=2) : Zope-2_8-branch Python-2.3.5 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Sun

[Zope-dev] buildbot failure in Zope branches 2.9 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot

2006-01-09 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope branches 2.9 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 2687 Blamelist: Zen,andreasjung,jim,oestermeier,yuppie BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot

Re: [Zope-dev] Twice-annual releases and bugfixes?

2006-01-09 Thread Tim Peters
[Jeff Kowalczyk] What does the twice-annual release policy say about bugs and/or packaging errors that are identified and fixed within a very short time of the official release announcement? I think the answer you're looking for is that the policy says nothing about that. Every-6-months

[Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume
Andreas Jung wrote: the zLOG module will be offically deprecated in Zope 2.10 (removed in Zope 2.12). New code _must_ use the 'logging' module of Python. And please help to replace all outstanding code that uses the zLOG module on the _trunk_ (which is a fun job :-|). If that is the case

[Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 16:35:31 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that is the case then I intend to: 1. move the definitions of zope's specific levels (trace and blather) into a more prominent place (ZODB also defines these levels, but it has to be an independent package),

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Fred Drake
On 1/9/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB package that actually uses these levels. Nobody should be using the zLOG levels with the logging package, but rather use the logging package levels. So in the end, there's no need

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/StructuredText/ Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext.

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Log message for revision 41225: Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext. Just to make sure: we didn't lose the ReST allowed arbitrary file includes bugfix by doing this? Florent -- Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo (Paris,

[Zope-dev] RE: [ZODB-Dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Tim Peters
[Andreas Jung] ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB package that actually uses these levels. Nevertheless, grep'ing the ZODB source for TRACE and BLATHER will find them. TRACE is used only in modules under ZEO/zrpc/, and gives extremely verbose output about

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 10:55:21 -0500 Fred Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/9/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB package that actually uses these levels. Nobody should be using the zLOG levels with the logging

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/StructuredText/ Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext.

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 17:00:13 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Log message for revision 41225: Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext. Just to make sure: we didn't lose the ReST allowed arbitrary

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume
On 9 Jan 2006, at 16:55, Fred Drake wrote: On 1/9/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB package that actually uses these levels. Nobody should be using the zLOG levels with the logging package, but rather use the logging

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Tim Peters
[Fred Drake] Nobody should be using the zLOG levels with the logging package, but rather use the logging package levels. So in the end, there's no need for Zope to be defining levels at all, only conventions for how the levels are used. The logging package supports defining as many

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Fred Drake
On 1/9/06, Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine grained. The python logging framework leaves room for numeric levels and registering equivalent strings, and indeed ZODB and zLOG have them defined. I want to use them.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 17:06:25 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine grained. Sufficently enough for me. BLATHER TRACE can be merged to DEBUG and PROBLEM to either WARN|ERROR. This should be even enough for Zope.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/StructuredText/ Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext.

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume
On 9 Jan 2006, at 17:03, Andreas Jung wrote: --On 9. Januar 2006 17:00:13 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Log message for revision 41225: Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext. Just to make sure:

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume
On 9 Jan 2006, at 17:25, Andreas Jung wrote: --On 9. Januar 2006 17:06:25 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine grained. Sufficently enough for me. Sufficient for me is not a good reason sorry. If you don't want

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume
On 9 Jan 2006, at 17:20, Fred Drake wrote: On 1/9/06, Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine grained. The python logging framework leaves room for numeric levels and registering equivalent strings, and indeed ZODB and zLOG

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 17:40:26 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9 Jan 2006, at 17:25, Andreas Jung wrote: --On 9. Januar 2006 17:06:25 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine grained. Sufficently

Re: [Zope-dev] zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Dieter Maurer
Andreas Jung wrote at 2006-1-8 22:14 +0100: ... If you deprecate zLOG could you please instruct the python logger to output Zope style tracebacks? Zope style tracebacks are much more informative than the stupid Python ones. As this is probably difficult without Monkey patching, I

Re: [Zope-dev] zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 20:06:09 +0100 Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'll have to check that. Support in terms of patches are welcome :-) The Zope specific interface for logging purposes is already there: You just want to deprecate and remove it. _We_ want to _cleanup_ things. The