[Zope-dev] A book about Zope Component Architecture

2007-11-14 Thread Baiju M
Hi all, I started writing a book about Zope Component Architecture. http://www.muthukadan.net/docs/zca.html http://www.muthukadan.net/docs/zca.pdf If you have any suggestions/comments please send it to me. The book's source is hosted here: https://edge.launchpad.net/zcadoc BTW, I

[Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris McDonough wrote: - Institute a policy that all distributions that are released to the cheeseshop should be installable via easy_install. IMO, if they are not installable this way, they should not be released to the cheeseshop, given the larger Python community's

[Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-14 Thread Chris Withers
Tres Seaver wrote: I've never known of transactions in anything to do with setuptools... I wasn't literally referring to a transaction, in the ZODB sense -- I meant, install using a separate run of easy_install'. Unless I'm missing something, that seems... sub-optimal. So I have to do

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:   - Figure out why buildout can (apparently) qsuccesfully install     dependencies of currently failing zope.* eggs while easy_install     can't.  I probably won't be able to do this. Because most buildouts specifically point

Re: [Zope-dev] A book about Zope Component Architecture

2007-11-14 Thread Nando Quintana
Hi Baiju I started writing a book about Zope Component Architecture. Great news! Thank you for this effort! If you have any suggestions/comments please send it to me. We've taken a quick look at it and We've seen something strange on page 21: ... def register(self): ... next_id =

Re: [Zope-dev] A book about Zope Component Architecture

2007-11-14 Thread Baiju M
Nando Quintana wrote: Hi Baiju I started writing a book about Zope Component Architecture. Great news! Thank you for this effort! If you have any suggestions/comments please send it to me. We've taken a quick look at it and We've seen something strange on page 21: ... def

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:     Yes, you lose the     ability to make a bugfix in one subpackage and release it, but     IIRC the intent is to trim zope.app down anyway, pushing     libraryish things out to top-level or zope.* packages. That *was* the

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK

2007-11-14 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Tue Nov 13 13:00:00 2007 UTC to Wed Nov 14 13:00:00 2007 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Tue Nov 13 20:55:02 EST 2007

[Zope-dev] release checker bot results.

2007-11-14 Thread Chris McDonough
Attempting to easy_install all 'zope'-related releases using the script at http://svn.repoze.org/playground/trunk/chris/zopesvnchecker/releasechecker.py , the results were: 122 failures, 67 successes. See http://www.plope.com/static/misc/rcresults-2007-11-14.txt for details. - C

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 14, 2007, at 6:05 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: - Figure out why buildout can (apparently) qsuccesfully install dependencies of currently failing zope.* eggs while easy_install can't. I probably won't be able to do

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Jim Fulton
On Nov 14, 2007, at 8:38 AM, Chris McDonough wrote: On Nov 14, 2007, at 6:05 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: - Figure out why buildout can (apparently) qsuccesfully install dependencies of currently failing zope.* eggs while

[Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-14 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: I've never known of transactions in anything to do with setuptools... I wasn't literally referring to a transaction, in the ZODB sense -- I meant, install using a separate run of easy_install'. Unless I'm

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Jim Fulton
On Nov 14, 2007, at 4:46 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: ... The individual eggs typically can't be used outside of a zope appserver installation (and if they can, they probably shouldn't be in zope.app, they should be in zope or they should be their own top-level package),

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: On Nov 14, 2007, at 8:38 AM, Chris McDonough wrote: On Nov 14, 2007, at 6:05 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: - Figure out why buildout can (apparently) qsuccesfully install

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Chris McDonough wrote: In the meantime, whose feet would I be shooting if I changed setup.py   dependency info so that, e.g. zope.tales (and the like) didn't pull in   as many dependencies?  Installing zope.tales (as an example, I'm sure   its as a result of a

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-14 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2007-11-14 09:14 +: Tres Seaver wrote: I've never known of transactions in anything to do with setuptools... I wasn't literally referring to a transaction, in the ZODB sense -- I meant, install using a separate run of easy_install'. Unless I'm missing something,

Re: [Zope-dev] conflict error

2007-11-14 Thread Paul Carduner
Hi Peter, I recently switched setup.py and buildout to use the new zope3.4 KGS and this caused some problems for existing installations of zcontact. Please submit a bug on launchpad (http://launchpad.net/zcontact) and I'll see if I can find what is causing the clonflict sometime today. - Paul

[Zope-dev] buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-14 Thread Chris McDonough
Is there an equivalent for tests_require in buildout.cfg/ zc.recipe.testrunner? The reason I ask is this... currently the zope.18n distribution has an install_requires that looks something like this: install_requires=[ 'setuptools', 'pytz',

[Zope-dev] conflict error

2007-11-14 Thread peter . koppatz
Hello, how can the error be corrected? ./bin/easy_install -U zcontact Searching for zcontact Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/zcontact/ Reading http://launchpad.net/zcontact Best match: zcontact 0.1.0a9 Processing zcontact-0.1.0a9-py2.4.egg zcontact 0.1.0a9 is already the active version in

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: So what makes this stuff work via buildout is all version-pinning now? They aren't using the cheeseshop. They are using the KGS instead. They are currently also pinned. zope.tal's buildout.cfg contains: [versions] zope.traversing = 3.4.0

Re: [Zope-dev] conflict error

2007-11-14 Thread Chris McDonough
What's causing the conflict is the fact that zope.traversing=3.5.0a1.dev-r78730 isn't in the KGS (nor will it get in there). It might help for Peter to move his zope.app.publisher egg aside (which is the thing that depends on this release) and try the -U again. On Nov 14, 2007, at 3:21

[Zope-dev] Re: Hivurt code hosting

2007-11-14 Thread Mikhail Kashkin
Stephan Richter wrote: Yes, everyone has to sign a contributor agreement, but you do not have to become a Zope Foundation member. Please gimme advice or a link, AFAIK after standing up ZoFo (sounds very nerdy B-) haha ) old rules changed. What we need to do? Note that svn.zope.org will

[Zope-dev] Re: Hivurt code hosting

2007-11-14 Thread Mikhail Kashkin
Sidnei da Silva wrote: I believe you can host code on launchpad.net too, but using 'bzr' instead of Subversion. There is a lot of tools include online services such as ohloh.net, that use subversion. For example eggs can automatically checkout from svn. Does bzr repos allow that? BTW, who

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Chris McDonough wrote: zope.tal's buildout.cfg contains: [versions] zope.traversing = 3.4.0 zope.app.publisher = 3.4.0 zope.tal shouldn't depend on either of these, so I'd like to remove   both the pinning in buildout.cfg and fix the dependency bug that  

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Jim Fulton wrote:  For a while,   those of us working on Zope 3 revelled in refactor mercilessly.   This was fine before Zope 3 was widely adopted.  We have since leaned   the value of mercy. :) LOL! (This should make it into the eternal list of Zope quotes.)

Re: [Zope-dev] buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-14 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Chris McDonough wrote: That's actually a no-good pack of lies, though. ;-)  I'd like to   change setup.py to something like this:      test_suite = __main__.alltests, # to support setup.py test      tests_require=[               'zope.testing',              

Re: [Zope-dev] buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-14 Thread Baiju M
Chris McDonough wrote: Is there an equivalent for tests_require in buildout.cfg/zc.recipe.testrunner? The reason I ask is this... currently the zope.18n distribution has an install_requires that looks something like this: install_requires=[ 'setuptools', 'pytz', 'zope.i18nmessageid',