[Zope-dev] Re: Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-21 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Gedminas wrote: > Disclaimer: my knowledge is not complete, and my track record of writing > emails late at night is not very good. Take this with a big grain of > salt. > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:57:31AM -0700, Timothy Selivanow wrote: >

Re: [Zope-dev] Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-21 Thread Marius Gedminas
Disclaimer: my knowledge is not complete, and my track record of writing emails late at night is not very good. Take this with a big grain of salt. On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:57:31AM -0700, Timothy Selivanow wrote: > As the subject implies, I'm working on a package for Fedora. I've come > across

Re: [Zope-dev] Reducing dependencies of zope.publisher

2008-03-21 Thread David Pratt
Hi Jim. OK great. Many thanks for elaborating. This will be progressive. I had been considering an application use case without a zodb. Is this the scenario that the basic publisher would facilitate? Regards, David Jim Fulton wrote: On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:10 PM, David Pratt wrote: Hi Jim.

[Zope-dev] zope.interface compatibility question

2008-03-21 Thread Felix Schwarz
I hope this is the right list for my question related to zope.interface: I use some (non-zope) software which uses zope.interface (currently 3.0.1). Now there is another software which needs a newer version of zope.interface. Is the zope.interface library (3.4) backwards compatible with 3.0.1?

Re: [Zope-dev] Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-21 Thread Timothy Selivanow
On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 20:09 +0100, Andreas Jung wrote: > Hi, > > speaking as the Zope 2 release manager: I am strongly opposed against > splitting Zope yourself into different packages and modules. With Zope > 2 depending from various Zope 3 packages (roughly 80-90) we have > already the situatio

[Zope-dev] Re: Reducing dependencies of zope.publisher

2008-03-21 Thread Martin Aspeli
Andreas Jung wrote: --On 21. März 2008 19:20:46 + Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One thing that sucks right now for the repoze.zope2 story is that Zope 2 isn't "officially" packaged in an egg-friendly form so the Repoze guys have to repackage it. It'd be great to be able to get

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Reducing dependencies of zope.publisher

2008-03-21 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 21. März 2008 19:20:46 + Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One thing that sucks right now for the repoze.zope2 story is that Zope 2 isn't "officially" packaged in an egg-friendly form so the Repoze guys have to repackage it. It'd be great to be able to get Zope 2 released in

[Zope-dev] Re: Reducing dependencies of zope.publisher

2008-03-21 Thread Martin Aspeli
Jim Fulton wrote: On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Jim Fulton wrote: On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thoughts? Objections? I've caught the repoze bug, and if this makes a Repoze.zope3 easier to do/hap

Re: [Zope-dev] Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-21 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi, speaking as the Zope 2 release manager: I am strongly opposed against splitting Zope yourself into different packages and modules. With Zope 2 depending from various Zope 3 packages (roughly 80-90) we have already the situation to keep track which packages belong together. This will become

[Zope-dev] Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-21 Thread Timothy Selivanow
As the subject implies, I'm working on a package for Fedora. I've come across some missing dependencies, and some that are different versions. Because of the way that Python packages are put together (shared library environment), I'm trying to strip out everything that is not Zope specific (e.g. m

Nitpicking about coding standards (was Re: [Zope-dev] zope.sendmail grantma-retryfixes branch review)

2008-03-21 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:33:10PM +, Chris Withers wrote: > Marius Gedminas wrote: >>> +"""Process results of an SMTP error >>> + returns True to indicate break needed""" >> The standard docstring convention is to do this: >>"""Process results of an SMTP error. T

Re: [Zope-dev] Reducing dependencies of zope.publisher

2008-03-21 Thread Jim Fulton
On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Jim Fulton wrote: On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thoughts? Objections? I've caught the repoze bug, and if this makes a Repoze.zope3 easier to do/happier, then I'm

Re: [Zope-dev] Reducing dependencies of zope.publisher

2008-03-21 Thread Jim Fulton
On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thoughts? Objections? I've caught the repoze bug, and if this makes a Repoze.zope3 easier to do/happier, then I'm all for it. I suspect the work I did a couple of wee

Re: [Zope-dev] Reducing dependencies of zope.publisher

2008-03-21 Thread Jim Fulton
On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:10 PM, David Pratt wrote: Hi Jim. What does this mean? It wouldn't have any visible effect on zope.publisher. Applications that use zope.publisher wouldn't see a change. There would be an alternative to zope.publisher that has far fewer dependencies and fewer feat

Re: [Zope-dev] Reducing dependencies of zope.publisher

2008-03-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thoughts? Objections? I've caught the repoze bug, and if this makes a Repoze.zope3 easier to do/happier, then I'm all for it. In fact, I wouldn't mind if repoze became the official zope3 story. It would definitely help towar

Re: [Zope-dev] Reducing dependencies of zope.publisher

2008-03-21 Thread David Pratt
Hi Jim. What does this mean? Will the new package be a drop in replacement for what we have without some direction on what to do with the other bit or will it break our applications. A working publisher is pretty essential to a functioning zope app. Does this mean the end of deprecation warning

Re: [Zope-dev] Reducing dependencies of zope.publisher

2008-03-21 Thread Jim Fulton
On Mar 21, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Benji York wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: This new package would a number of things [...] This new package would do what to a number of things? Gaaah. Sorry. It would omit them. :) Jim -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope-dev] Reducing dependencies of zope.publisher

2008-03-21 Thread Benji York
Jim Fulton wrote: This new package would a number of things [...] This new package would do what to a number of things? -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/l

[Zope-dev] Reducing dependencies of zope.publisher

2008-03-21 Thread Jim Fulton
I'd like reduce the barrier of entry for using the Zope 3 zope publisher. Right now, it has quite a few dependencies setuptools, zope.component, zope.event, zope.exceptions, zope.i18n, zope.interface, zope.location, zope.proxy, zope.security, zope.deprecation, and zope.deferredimport.

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK

2008-03-21 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Thu Mar 20 12:00:00 2008 UTC to Fri Mar 21 12:00:00 2008 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Mar 20 21:53:34 EDT 2008 URL: http://m