Re: [Zope-dev] Dependencies and future of zope 3

2008-09-02 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 3. September 2008 08:04:00 +0200 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 02:54, David Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In any case I am interested in hearing from folks about what can or ought to be done or whether there is interest in this direction. Many tha

Re: [Zope-dev] Dependencies and future of zope 3

2008-09-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 02:54, David Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In any case I am interested in > hearing from folks about what can or ought to be done or whether there > is interest in this direction. Many thanks. That the packages are too dependent on each other today, and that this means

[Zope-dev] Dependencies and future of zope 3

2008-09-02 Thread David Pratt
Hi there. I have been developing with zope3 for about 4 years and would like to see zope continue in a healthy way into the future. The last couple of years particularly have brought significant change in how we deploy zope particularly with wsgi with or without the zodb. In addition, there is

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.component: calling an Interface and calling queryAdapter give differing results

2008-09-02 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Martin Aspeli wrote: > > Some people who use zope.interface reply on being able to singly adapt   > > tuples > > I've heard this before, but I've always been curious: why? when is this > a pattern you'd want to use? Ask the twisted guys. :-) Regards, Stephan -- Step

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.component: calling an Interface and calling queryAdapter give differing results

2008-09-02 Thread Martin Aspeli
Jim Fulton wrote: > Some people who use zope.interface reply on being able to singly adapt > tuples I've heard this before, but I've always been curious: why? when is this a pattern you'd want to use? Martin -- Author of `Professional Plone Development`, a book for developers who want to wo

Re: [Zope-dev] Make simple ISource usable

2008-09-02 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Jim, Stephan > Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] Make simple ISource usable > > On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Jim Fulton wrote: > > > An alternative to Roger's proposal would be to move the ITerms > > > declaration and any possible generic implementation of > such into its > > > own package zope.term

Re: [Zope-dev] Make simple ISource usable

2008-09-02 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Jim Fulton wrote: > > An alternative to Roger's proposal would be to move the ITerms   > > declaration and > > any possible generic implementation of such into its own package   > > zope.terms. > > I don't have a problem with that. :) That's what I thought. Impasse re

Re: [Zope-dev] Make simple ISource usable

2008-09-02 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sep 2, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: > On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Jim Fulton wrote: >>> This whould not affect other implementations like >>> the ISourceQueriables etc. It only offers the >>> a way to implement reusable simple ISource components >>> without the need that every U

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.component: calling an Interface and calling queryAdapter give differing results

2008-09-02 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sep 1, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > El 1 Sep 2008, a las 17:23 , Chris Withers escribió: >> Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: >>> I've personally thought for some time that it would be quite nice >>> if all you had to do was call an interface to look up a utility >>> (

Re: [Zope-dev] Make simple ISource usable

2008-09-02 Thread Jim Fulton
On Aug 31, 2008, at 4:51 PM, Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 10:23:00PM +0200, Christian Zagrodnick wrote: >> Wait. zope.schema really shouldn't know about terms. Terms are about >> the user interface, hence title/token. That has really *nothing* to >> do >> with zope.schema. F

Re: [Zope-dev] Make simple ISource usable

2008-09-02 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Jim > Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] Make simple ISource usable > > > On Aug 30, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Roger Ineichen wrote: > > But zope.schema does already know about term. > > This was a mistake. Let's fix that mistake and do it right. That's all I'm asking for. Just saying no that's bad doesn't

Re: [Zope-dev] Make simple ISource usable

2008-09-02 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Stephan > Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] Make simple ISource usable > > On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Jim Fulton wrote: > > > This whould not affect other implementations like the > > > ISourceQueriables etc. It only offers the a way to implement > > > reusable simple ISource components without th

Re: [Zope-dev] Make simple ISource usable

2008-09-02 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Jim Fulton wrote: > > This whould not affect other implementations like > > the ISourceQueriables etc. It only offers the > > a way to implement reusable simple ISource components > > without the need that every UI framework needs to > > implement their own interfaces

Re: [Zope-dev] Make simple ISource usable

2008-09-02 Thread Jim Fulton
On Aug 30, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Roger Ineichen wrote: > But zope.schema does already know about term. This was a mistake. ... > ISource uses ITerm as items. No it doesn't. Jim -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.o

Re: [Zope-dev] Make simple ISource usable

2008-09-02 Thread Jim Fulton
On Aug 29, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Roger Ineichen wrote: > I'll try to make the ISource API smooth and usable > for other components. Right now ISource provides no > simple API for work with terms. > > Since a ISource only provides a __contains__ method > and the IterableSource the __iter__ method, > t

Re: [Zope-dev] "zipped" versus "unzipped" eggs (was: Re: SVN: Zope2.buildout/trunk/ Don't pin setuptools.)

2008-09-02 Thread Jim Fulton
On Aug 30, 2008, at 2:03 AM, Dieter Maurer wrote: > Tres Seaver wrote at 2008-8-28 15:22 -0400: >> >> I don't think zipped eggs are a win in any real scenario, except >> possibly the goofy file-count-limited GAE. I would strongly prefer >> that >> you revert this one change (you can overr

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK

2008-09-02 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Mon Sep 1 11:00:00 2008 UTC to Tue Sep 2 11:00:00 2008 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Mon Sep 1 20:49:48 EDT 2008 URL: http://m