[Zope-dev] Fw: ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-01-31 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, the KGS turned from not-having-been-updated to missing. At least regarding to my monitoring. What's happened? Begin forwarded message: Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 07:09:44 +0100 (CET) From: nag...@mail.whq.gocept.com (nagios) To: c...@gocept.com Subject: ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-01-31 Thread Christian Theune
Darn. The moment I send the mail I realise that Stephan said he'll move the URLs around. I'll update my Nagios. Sorry for the noise. On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:17:11 +0100 Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: Hi, the KGS turned from not-having-been-updated to missing. At least regarding to

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-01-31 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 31 January 2009, Christian Theune wrote: Darn. The moment I send the mail I realise that Stephan said he'll move the URLs around. I also cleared the directory for a short time earlier while upgrading to the new KGS version. I have sym-linked most of the old links though. Regards,

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-01-31 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 31 January 2009, Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009, Christian Theune wrote: Darn. The moment I send the mail I realise that Stephan said he'll move the URLs around. I also cleared the directory for a short time earlier while upgrading to the new KGS version. I

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-01-31 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 31, 2009, at 09:49 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009, Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009, Christian Theune wrote: Darn. The moment I send the mail I realise that Stephan said he'll move the URLs

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-01-31 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Jan 31, 2009, at 09:49 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009, Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009, Christian Theune wrote: Darn. The moment I send the mail I realise that Stephan said

Re: [Zope-dev] ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-01-31 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:06 , Tres Seaver wrote: If you could provide a little bit more context since I have no idea how download.zope.org is managed I could look at it. I need to know what the URLs are that do not work. Probably the virtualhost

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 Released!

2009-01-31 Thread Dan Korostelev
2009/1/31 Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu: Hi everyone, It is finally here! Thanks goes to everyone who involved! Thank you! BTW, there's some problems with python version requirement in the tarball release. It does not accept python 2.5 while it should as stated in the

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 Released!

2009-01-31 Thread Martijn Faassen
Yay! Thanks for all that work, Stephan! Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -

Re: [Zope-dev] ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-01-31 Thread Christian Theune
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:35:06 +0100 Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:06 , Tres Seaver wrote: If you could provide a little bit more context since I have no idea how download.zope.org is managed I could look

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.security changes

2009-01-31 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2009-1-30 18:50 +: Brian Sutherland wrote: zope.configuration.x zope.configuration.y Please don't, having namespace packages that contain files (as zope.configuration already does) breaks setuptools. Then setuptools needs fixing. But not for this purpose: I

[Zope-dev] snakebite

2009-01-31 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Recently there was a project called snakebite revealed: http://www.snakebite.org/ http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2009-January/000331.html It's basically a whole bunch of machines that open source projects, in particular Python related ones, can make use of for

[Zope-dev] zope.app.keyreference, zope.app.intid and zope.app.catalog

2009-01-31 Thread Dan Korostelev
While you guys are moving zope.app.container to zope.container and those cleaning many dependencies, I'd also like to clean intid/catalog related stuff. The whole thing consists of three main packages that can be cleaned: * zope.app.keyreference - it doesn't depend on any ZMI or container stuff,

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.keyreference, zope.app.intid and zope.app.catalog

2009-01-31 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:59:52 +0300 Dan Korostelev nad...@gmail.com wrote: While you guys are moving zope.app.container to zope.container and those cleaning many dependencies, I'd also like to clean intid/catalog related stuff. The whole thing consists of three main packages that can be

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.security changes

2009-01-31 Thread Jim Fulton
On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Brian Sutherland wrote: Please don't, having namespace packages that contain files (as zope.configuration already does) breaks setuptools. zope.configuration isn't a namespace package. It is simply a package with subpackages. Jim -- Jim Fulton Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.keyreference, zope.app.intid and zope.app.catalog

2009-01-31 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, [snip plan to clean up more dependencies] Awesome! As Christian said, this is pretty much what we've been doing. You might want to mess around with z3c.recipe.compattest to run compatibility tests after your changes, though it's still a bit finicky and rather slow. But if you try it out,

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 8 OK

2009-01-31 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Fri Jan 30 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Sat Jan 31 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.7 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Jan 30 20:46:02 EST 2009 URL:

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.keyreference, zope.app.intid and zope.app.catalog

2009-01-31 Thread Dan Korostelev
2009/1/31 Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: WRT the ZODB issues: I've started working on a 'touch' tool for ZODB that analyzes (pickle-based) storages for class references which are missing in your code base and (if all class references exist) can touch all objects that reference classes from

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 Released!

2009-01-31 Thread Benji York
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu wrote: Zope 3.4 requires Python 2.4 or 3.5 to run. /me goes to download Python 3.5. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.keyreference, zope.app.intid and zope.app.catalog

2009-01-31 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:11:44 +0300 Dan Korostelev nad...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/31 Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: WRT the ZODB issues: I've started working on a 'touch' tool for ZODB that analyzes (pickle-based) storages for class references which are missing in your code base and

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.keyreference, zope.app.intid and zope.app.catalog

2009-01-31 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Dan Korostelev wrote: Well, I chose packages that are kind of separated from most of zope the application packages, because there aren't many packages that depend on either zope.app.catalog or zope.app.intid/keyreference. So I think we can do that work at the same time. However, it may

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.keyreference, zope.app.intid and zope.app.catalog

2009-01-31 Thread Dan Korostelev
2009/1/31 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com: Dan Korostelev wrote: Well, I chose packages that are kind of separated from most of zope the application packages, because there aren't many packages that depend on either zope.app.catalog or zope.app.intid/keyreference. So I think we can do

[Zope-dev] OSCON 2009 Call For Participation ends Feb 3rd - No Zope proposals yet

2009-01-31 Thread Michael R. Bernstein
Hi folks, The deadline for the O'Reilly Open Source Convention Call For Participation is Tuesday Feb 3rd. OSCON will be held July 20-24 in San Jose, California. As of today, there are no Zope-related proposals, so yours could have a pretty good chance of acceptance. ;-) There have been a lot

Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope] Zope 3.4.0 Released!

2009-01-31 Thread Sebastien Douche
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 08:33, Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu wrote: Hi everyone, It is finally here! Thanks goes to everyone who involved! Yeah \o/ Thank you Stephan. -- Sebastien Douche sdou...@gmail.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.keyreference, zope.app.intid and zope.app.catalog

2009-01-31 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, I've released our changes in zope.app.intid. We hadn't touched zope.app.catalog and zope.app.keyreference. Anyway, the trunks are yours. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

[Zope-dev] Grok cave sprint summary, and future todos

2009-01-31 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, I've just made a lot of releases as the result of our dependency cleanup sprint. There are more releases to be made, but I think I've released the most important affected packages now. Christian Theune is going to follow up and release some more packages that we touched, probably

Re: [Zope-dev] Grok cave sprint summary, and future todos

2009-01-31 Thread Dan Korostelev
Hi! That's a great piece of work you did, thanks! I've been following package releases and have noticed some mistakes mainly in changelog formatting: zope.proxy = 3.5.0 (unreleased) * Added support to bootstrap on Jython. * Use zope.container instead of

Re: [Zope-dev] Grok cave sprint summary, and future todos

2009-01-31 Thread Dan Korostelev
Also, there's a bug in zope.traversing: The getParents function of zope.traversing.api uses the getParents method of IPhysicallyLocatable, which really is new ILocationInfo, but this interface doesn't even declare getParents method and the RootPhysicallyLocatable adapter in zope.traversing

Re: [Zope-dev] Grok cave sprint summary, and future todos

2009-01-31 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Dan Korostelev wrote: That's a great piece of work you did, thanks! I've been following package releases and have noticed some mistakes mainly in changelog formatting: zope.proxy = 3.5.0 (unreleased) * Added support to bootstrap on Jython. * Use zope.container

Re: [Zope-dev] Grok cave sprint summary, and future todos

2009-01-31 Thread Dan Korostelev
2009/1/31 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com: Dan Korostelev wrote: Also, there's a bug in zope.traversing: The getParents function of zope.traversing.api uses the getParents method of IPhysicallyLocatable, which really is new ILocationInfo, but this interface doesn't even declare

[Zope-dev] Progress on zope intid/keyreference.

2009-01-31 Thread Dan Korostelev
I just finished working on zope's intid and keyreference packages. The whole key-reference stuff is now moved in zope.keyreference package and the new version of zope.app.keyreference is released that only contains compatibility imports, so it makes no sense to depend on zope.app.keyreference

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 Released!

2009-01-31 Thread Shane Hathaway
Stephan Richter wrote: It is finally here! Thanks goes to everyone who involved! January 29, 2009 - The Zope 3 development team announces the Zope 3.4.0 release. Excellent! I have to say, though, that the download process is quite confusing. Let's say I'm a Pythonista who wants to try out

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.security changes

2009-01-31 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 06:21:27AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Brian Sutherland wrote: Please don't, having namespace packages that contain files (as zope.configuration already does) breaks setuptools. zope.configuration isn't a namespace package. It is simply a

Re: [Zope-dev] Progress on zope intid/keyreference.

2009-01-31 Thread Dan Korostelev
I also just checked in a hack to make old keyreference objects loadable if zope.app.keyreference is gone because a buildout doesn't depend on it after upgrade: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/checkins/2009-January/029890.html I wonder if that kind of quick hack is okay to be released for the

Re: [Zope-dev] Grok cave sprint summary, and future todos

2009-01-31 Thread Dan Korostelev
2009/1/31 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com: Dan Korostelev wrote: Also, there's a bug in zope.traversing: The getParents function of zope.traversing.api uses the getParents method of IPhysicallyLocatable, which really is new ILocationInfo, but this interface doesn't even declare

Re: [Zope-dev] snakebite

2009-01-31 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 31 January 2009, Martijn Faassen wrote: Would people be interested in working on making use of this platform? We could use it for testing of a wide range of packages. Perhaps the ZODB would be an interesting package to start with. If so we should approach snakebite to see whether

Re: [Zope-dev] ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-01-31 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 31 January 2009, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:06 , Tres Seaver wrote: If you could provide a little bit more context since I have no idea how download.zope.org is managed I could look at it. I need to know what the URLs are that do not work. Probably the

Re: [Zope-dev] ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-01-31 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 31 January 2009, Christian Theune wrote: I'm not sure this is relevant anymore. I guess this might be a better URL now: http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/3.4.0/pypi-poll-access.lock Stephan? Let's use one of these, since they do not depend the specifics of the KGS:

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 Released!

2009-01-31 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 31 January 2009, Dan Korostelev wrote: BTW, there's some problems with python version requirement in the tarball release. It does not accept python 2.5 while it should as stated in the announcement. Sigh, I only tested by specifying the Python version directly. I am too lazy to

[Zope-dev] Planning for Zope 3.5

2009-01-31 Thread Stephan Richter
Hi all, now that we have Zope 3.4.0 finally behind us, let's look forward. As I said in the release notes, I am really willing to switch to a 6 months release cycle again. I think there are three areas that we can work on: - Python 2.6 support. I think this should be straight forward. We

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 Released!

2009-01-31 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 31 January 2009, Shane Hathaway wrote: So, my question is: what should the download page *really* say? Consider that existing developers of Zope 3 don't actually need this page at all since they already use zc.buildout.  This page's audience, then, is people who know little about