[Zope-dev] zope.i18nmessageid-3.5.1 py2.5 win binary

2010-04-19 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello, Someone please make a release of the above. -- Best regards, Adam ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailm

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.5 - this weekend

2010-04-19 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 19.04.2010, 22:22 Uhr, schrieb Hanno Schlichting : > If you have anything else you want to get in, commit away or let me know. > Cheers, > Hanno > P.S. I'm flexible on "the weekend", I can postpone the release until > Monday. Probably a good time to remind people that Saturday is bug day: h

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.5 - this weekend

2010-04-19 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. I'm planning to do a new Zope 2.12.5 release this weekend. Yvo is going to try to look some more into the unauthorized / exception view interaction and I hope to get a ZODB 3.9.5 release from Jim. If you have anything else you want to get in, commit away or let me know. Cheers, Hanno P.S.

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-19 Thread Jonathan Lange
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 03:56:02PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: >> On 4/19/10 15:48 , Marius Gedminas wrote: >> >      def doctest_MyClass_bar(): >> >          """Test MyClass.bar >> > >> >              >>>  y = MyClass() >> > >> >      

Re: [Zope-dev] env var support for zc.buildout

2010-04-19 Thread Florian Friesdorf
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:28:37AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Florian Friesdorf wrote: > > Hi Jim, hi Christian, > > > > any further thoughts on this? > > Not at this time. This is on my to-do list to look at. > > I think your use case would be better handled th

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-19 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 03:56:02PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > On 4/19/10 15:48 , Marius Gedminas wrote: > > def doctest_MyClass_bar(): > > """Test MyClass.bar > > > > >>> y = MyClass() > > > > The bar method peforms a bar calculation that typically return

Re: [Zope-dev] KGS 3.4.1 versions

2010-04-19 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hello Jonathan, done Monday, April 19, 2010, 6:56:34 PM, you wrote: JB> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Adam GROSZER wrote: >> Hello, >> >> There is a sheet with versions for KGS 3.4.1 >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tUE5Q72d4Kg1FXaacCA3EKQ&output=html >> >> Anyone for/against those

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-19 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Benji York wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Charlie Clark > wrote: >> Narrative documentation forces you to explain yourself to someone else. >> Neither, however, will necessarily notice if you forget something: tests >> aren't documentation

Re: [Zope-dev] KGS 3.4.1 versions

2010-04-19 Thread Jonathan Ballet
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Adam GROSZER wrote: > Hello, > > There is a sheet with versions for KGS 3.4.1 > http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tUE5Q72d4Kg1FXaacCA3EKQ&output=html > > Anyone for/against those versions? Tres Seaver just released zope.securitypolicy 3.4.4 (3.4.3 was buggy)

Re: [Zope-dev] Unauthorized handling in Zope2

2010-04-19 Thread yuppie
Hi again! yuppie wrote: > Wichert Akkerman wrote: >> v is the html as generated by my view. Reraising the exception transfers >> control to the bare except in >> ZPublisher.Publish.publish_module_standard, which generates the standard >> site error page and returns that. > > I would have expected

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed

2010-04-19 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zope Tests Summarizer wrote: > Test failures > - > > Subject: FAILED: Repository policy check found errors in 669 projects > From: ct at gocept.com > Date: Sun Apr 18 21:13:39 EDT 2010 > URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010

Re: [Zope-dev] Unauthorized handling in Zope2

2010-04-19 Thread yuppie
Hi! Wichert Akkerman wrote: > I can't get an Unauthorized exception view to work with current Zope > 2.12 svn. My approach was: > > - add a dummy PAS challenge plugin which does nothing, effectively > delegating everything to my Unauthorized exception view > - register a browser view for Unau

[Zope-dev] Unauthorized handling in Zope2

2010-04-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I can't get an Unauthorized exception view to work with current Zope 2.12 svn. My approach was: - add a dummy PAS challenge plugin which does nothing, effectively delegating everything to my Unauthorized exception view - register a browser view for Unauthorized and return a proper error mes

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-19 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam GROSZER wrote: > I'm somewhat vary on unittests. I've seen some damn cryptic ones that > took a lot of time to decipher. > A doctest somehow forces you to dump your mind (well at least that, if > we're not that brilliant techdoc writers). > OTOH

Re: [Zope-dev] env var support for zc.buildout

2010-04-19 Thread Jim Fulton
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Florian Friesdorf wrote: > Hi Jim, hi Christian, > > any further thoughts on this? Not at this time. This is on my to-do list to look at. I think your use case would be better handled through normal command-line option specification, as in: buildout -c deploy

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-19 Thread Jonathan Lange
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 15:48, Marius Gedminas wrote: >> If you've the discipline to keep the doctests short, I don't see why you >> shouldn't continue writing them instead of unit tests > > Because they are a bitch to debug, relies on det

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-19 Thread Benji York
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:50:23PM +0200, Adam GROSZER wrote: >> >> I'm somewhat vary on unittests. I've seen some damn cryptic ones that >> took a lot of time to decipher. >> A doctest somehow forces you to dump your mind (well at least th

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-19 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 16:03, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 15:48, Marius Gedminas wrote: >> If you've the discipline to keep the doctests short, I don't see why you >> shouldn't continue writing them instead of unit tests > > Because they are a bitch to debug, relies on detai

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-19 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 15:48, Marius Gedminas wrote: > If you've the discipline to keep the doctests short, I don't see why you > shouldn't continue writing them instead of unit tests Because they are a bitch to debug, relies on details of output, which makes them brittle, hard to port to Python

Re: [Zope-dev] env var support for zc.buildout

2010-04-19 Thread Florian Friesdorf
Hi Jim, hi Christian, any further thoughts on this? best regards florian On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 05:23:36PM +0200, Florian Friesdorf wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 10:16:51AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: > > > We currently use it for 5 very similar sites that share one repository > > > but use 5 c

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/19/10 15:48 , Marius Gedminas wrote: > def doctest_MyClass_bar(): > """Test MyClass.bar > > >>> y = MyClass() > > The bar method peforms a bar calculation that typically returns > twenty-three: > > >>> y.bar() > 23 > >

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-19 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:50:23PM +0200, Adam GROSZER wrote: > Hello Tres, > > Saturday, April 17, 2010, 3:41:02 AM, you wrote: > > TS> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > TS> Hash: SHA1 > > > > +lots on more docs > +lots on 100% coverage > > TS> The trickier testing bits we would re-write

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testrunner (Was: Circular dependency hell.)

2010-04-19 Thread Jonathan Ballet
Hi, On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: > OK, I made a branch of zope.testing that doesn't include the > testrunner. That was easy peasy. > > http://svn.zope.org/zope.testing/branches/regebro-notestrunner/ > > And I made a zope.testrunner: > > http://svn.zope.org/zope.testrunn

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-19 Thread Benji York
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Charlie Clark wrote: > Narrative documentation forces you to explain yourself to someone else. > Neither, however, will necessarily notice if you forget something: tests > aren't documentation and docu [sic] Quite true. It is also true that tests should be well d

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed

2010-04-19 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Sun Apr 18 12:00:00 2010 UTC to Mon Apr 19 12:00:00 2010 UTC. There were 14 messages: 6 from Zope Tests, 7 from ccomb at free.fr, 1 from ct at gocept.com. Test failures - Subject: FAILED: Repository policy check found errors in 669

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-19 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 19.04.2010, 12:50 Uhr, schrieb Adam GROSZER : Before I start: + lots on the general idea. Zope's narrative documentation is attrocious"[1] and we have lost users and developers as a result. > I'm somewhat vary on unittests. I've seen some damn cryptic ones that > took a lot of time to deciph

[Zope-dev] zope.testrunner (Was: Circular dependency hell.)

2010-04-19 Thread Lennart Regebro
OK, I made a branch of zope.testing that doesn't include the testrunner. That was easy peasy. http://svn.zope.org/zope.testing/branches/regebro-notestrunner/ And I made a zope.testrunner: http://svn.zope.org/zope.testrunner/trunk That was pretty easy too. Except one thing: The shuffle feature s

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-19 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hello Tres, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 3:41:02 AM, you wrote: TS> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- TS> Hash: SHA1 +lots on more docs +lots on 100% coverage TS> The trickier testing bits we would re-write as super thorough, no TS> shortcuts-taken unit tests: one testcase class per class (or

Re: [Zope-dev] KGS 3.4.1 versions

2010-04-19 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hello Christophe, Sunday, April 18, 2010, 2:54:08 AM, you wrote: CC> Adam GROSZER a écrit : >> Hello, >> >> There is a sheet with versions for KGS 3.4.1 >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tUE5Q72d4Kg1FXaacCA3EKQ&output=html >> >> Anyone for/against those versions? >> >> The open questio