Casey Duncan wrote:
-1 on changing the list policy. I read and post to all of the public
lists through Gmane, which won't work if the policy is changed.
Umm... Why wouldn't this work? Isn't Gmane a subscriber?
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Ken Manheimer wrote:
I noticed this when it went initially went by, but didn't have time to
follow up. The upshot is that there is absolutely no way *under the
current arrangement* that this is going to happen. I can see a way to
swing it, requiring earnest volunteer effort. Here are the deta
Jim Fulton wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
The first question is:
Is it a problem to have two packages with names differing only in case?
+1
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Shane Hathaway wrote:
Michael Bernstein wrote:
Did I miss something? Did I just manage to embarrass myself? Is this a
dream where I find I am wearing nothing but underwear in public and
then wake up?
Well, OPE made me think of:
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Fred Drake wrote:
On Friday 16 April 2004 01:31 pm, Michael Bernstein wrote:
> From a consistency in nomenclature POV, I find 'z' jars a bit with
> ZConfig, zdaemon, ZEO, zLog, and ZODB, which one might expect to find
> nested within 'z' (as 'z.Config'
Jim Fulton wrote:
Based on recent discussions, I've created a proposal:
http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/RenameTheZopePackage
to rename the "zope" package to "z". Unless there are strong
objections, we'll do this after we move the Zope repository head to
subversion at the end of the month.
From a con
n orphan setting of three, should actually
give the following result:
batch 1: 1 2 3 4
But the algorithm doesn't seem 'smart' enough to roll-up the
batches by recursing through them in reverse order. Arguably
though, you should never set your batch size smaller than
the orphan size
tly faster. Now to find the time. :-)
Does this have any implications for the BTree implementation
used in ZPatterns Racks?
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Steve Alexander wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > If the SkinScript
> > has functionality that should be shared by more than one
> > Rack, it should go in the Specialist,
>
> Not quite. If the SkinScript has functionality that is shared by
> all
Steve Alexander wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks, Steve. I'll try this a little later today. What are
> > your thoughts on placing this in the Specialist's 'Plug-ins'
> > tab vs. the Rack's?
[snip excellent explan
Steve Alexander wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > 'BookProduct' product
> > *'BookClass' ZClass (inherits from
> > _ZClass_for_CatalogAware, _ZClass_for_DataSkin)
>
> Don't derive from CatalogAware when you're also de
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I'm unsure of the
details. I have a method (AllTextMethod) on the ZClass that
returns several fields concatenated as a single string,
which I would like to use as a text index.
So, I decided to ask for a critique of the application
design (such as it is). I also seem to recall mention of
test
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he rewrite rules are
horribly cryptic.
HTH,
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pe that when you report your results,
you're able to separate indexing, searching, storage, and
retreival results, so that the appropriate factor can be
identified as the bottleneck. Or at least into
indexing/searching and storage/retreival.
Thanks,
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We seem to have disposed of the wildcard issue [snipped out
below], and I'm looking forward to Eric's results, but does
anyone else have any information about whether there is a
practical upper limit on how many objects can be indexed and
searched in a ZCatalog?
Michael Berns
; data anywhere, and you can index it in an RDBMS, LDAP directory, ZCatalog,
> or some combination thereof, using triggers to keep the data in sync.
Thanks Philip, that's reassuring. I guess now I need to make
certain that the ZCatalog can scale as far as I need it to.
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Steve Alexander wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> > There is some question in my mind if
> > accessing any attribute (such as the thumbnail version)
> > causes all attributes to be loaded into memory. If so,
> > displaying a list of images with thumbn
Steve Alexander wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> >
> > It seems clear that indexing and searching are more of a
> > botleneck than storage/retreival. Nevertheless, so far I
> > have not heard of anyone trying to store more than
Erik Enge wrote:
>
> [Michael Bernstein]
>
> | I need to know how far the ZCatalog will scale using this indexing
> | and search strategy. Does anyone have anectodal or benchmark data to
> | suggest if (and when) I will hit a 'wall' regarding the number of
> | obj
Steve Alexander wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> > Also, is there a way to disable wildcards in full text
> > searches?
>
> Do not allow direct queries to search the catalog. Instead, make
> searches go through an external method (or a PythonScript with
n full text
searches?
Thanks,
Michael Bernstein.
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Does anyone have anectodal or benchmark data that would
suggest what happens with that many objects?
Thanks,
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Which problem is the algorithm improvement meant to address,
bulk adds or partial search performance?
Thanks,
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Michael Bernstein wrote:
> John Eikenberry wrote:
>
> Can yo
t, but I'm doing
> it full time and should have something fairly soon. My company is very free
> software friendly, so I'll be able to share it once its ready. If you
> happen to be interested.
Sure, keep me posted.
Thanks,
Michael Bernstein.
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ZCatalog/ObjectManager with search methods.
HTH,
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RDM wrote:
>
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Michael Bernstein wrote:
> > as Squishdot). Adding a dependency on an RDBMS or requiring
> > additional setup on the server's FS seems a step in the
> > wrong direction.
> [...]
> > So the question remains: Will either a
ent 'comfort zones'.
> > Does anyone know of any hidden 'gotchas' when dealing with
> > this many objects, regardless of the hit-load on the system?
>
> Mostly starting and stopping Zope, [snip]
Are you saying that Zope'
John Eikenberry wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> > So, again: Has anyone run up against any performance or
> > other limitations regarding large numbers (hundreds of
> > thousands or more) of objects stored within the ZODB either
> > in a BTree Folder o
l the system slow down if you add enough
objects?
Thanks,
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but only slightly.
However, so far I have not heard of anyone storing and
indexing as many homogenous objects as I am talking about.
I'd really like to hear from anyone who has attempted to do
this or something similar.
Does anyone know of any hidden 'gotchas'
Steve Alexander wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> > I am currently planning two separate 'Archive' type
> > projects/Products. In both cases, I need to make sure that
> > my implementation will scale to hundreds of thousands or
> > even millions
itations at the scale
that I'm talking about?
The other implementation I'm considering is to create a
ZClass that inherits from ZCatalog and Btree Folder. Would
this approach run into any scalability problems with the
number and type of objects I'm talking abou
sidering creating an ImageArchive ZClass
that inherits from ZCatalog and BTree folder, so I have
infrastructure that is better suited to managing thousands
(potentially hundreds of thousands) of objects.
Any ideas would be welcome.
Michael Bernstein.
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Andy McKay wrote:
>
> My lips are sealed.
You're being coy.
Here is the URL:
http://www.activestate.com/Products/Komodo/
Michael Bernstein.
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x27;
content into the tree frame directly, you might consider
splitting the tree frame instead. This would keep the logo
visible, but would no longer take up screen real estate from
the main frame.
Does DC do any usability testing on proposed UI changes?
HTH,
Michael Bernstein.
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lour for the tabs and
> the "Root Folder" link. The black seems a bit overbearing.
Hmm. I haven't checked out the new interface myself yet, but
I wonder if DC did any usability testing on their new UI?
Cheers,
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Chris Withers wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > No, I'm creating two different applications, an image
> > archive and a book catalog. Both need to handle large
> > numbers of items. The standard management interface does not
> > scale to the nu
Chris Withers wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > Now I'm wondering how to duplicate the behaviour of Postings
> > being contained within Squishdot, but not appearing in the
> > 'Contents' tab.
>
> that's definitely a 'b
Chris Withers wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > uncatalog_object to be called on it (I'm not sure what
> > method reindex_object causes to be called).
>
> unindex_object followed by index_object. I'm not convinced it's
> necessary, as
Erik Enge wrote:
>
> [Michael Bernstein]
>
> | When called, they find the nearest (acquisition-wise) ZCatalog
> | (named Catalog by default),
>
> I think you can specify the ZCatalog it should index itself in by
> putting the default_catalog attribute in your class.
Yo
the
Squishdot object (which inherits from ZCatalog).
Do I have this correct?
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Chris Withers wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > If you are writing your own cataloging and uncataloging
> > code, then I think that it could be.
>
> G
>
> The cataloguing code in Squishdot amounts to about 4 lines, all of which
> a
Chris Withers wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > I guess it's just a matter of only reinventing the wheels
> > you have to, and writing less code as a result.
>
> I'm pretty sure Squishdot is re-inventing no wheels ;-)
If you are writing your ow
Chris Withers wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. Aren't postings CatalogAware? If they're not, shouldn't
> > they be?
>
> Why? ;-)
>
> Squishdot manages the cataloging, re-cataloging and un-cataloging of its
> own postings.
hey're not, shouldn't
they be?
Now-I'm-Curious-ly yrs,
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Chris Withers wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > reindex_object - should be called when an object is edited
>
> Hmmm... didn't see this method listed in the interfaces wiki. Where did
> you find it?
I found it in the 'Creating a CatalogAware ZClas
"Morten W. Petersen" wrote:
>
> [Morten W. Petersen]
>
> | Any suggestions?
>
> Found the problem. There needs to be a method called user_names
> in the acl_users folder, which returns all the user ids:
[snip solution]
Sorry I didn't see your question earlier. Here was what I
posted to the li
ribute the code that I've got.
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and I'm the 39th object listed (other than index_html), that
makes me the 39th user to sign up for a login!
Low user ID #s are cool.
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x27;s be great if there
> were hooks to catch validation problems rather than just raising
> exceptions...
Along with the TTW ability to define new variable types to
be validated (and their validation methods), such as :email,
:12hTime, :24hTime, :URL, :fqURL (f
tendedManagmentTabsMixin/>
>
> It's should supply any Python Product with multi-level management tabs
> without breaking existing code (peppar peppar). If not please let me know.
Sounds interesting. Can you add a few screenshots to the
product page?
Michael Bernstein.
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Chris Withers wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> > After some more thought, I realized that this really needs
> > to be a three-way gateway betrween a mailing list, a 'blog,
> > and a newsgroup.
>
> I'm all up for doing the mailing list/web
Check out his comments here:
http://weblogs.userland.com/zopeNewbies/discuss/msgReader$831
Cheers,
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Michel Pelletier wrote:
>
> Chris Withers wrote:
> >
> > Michel Pelletier wrote:
> >
> > > Python Methods are a perfect example of an object that is useful to us
> > > at the top for advanced things, like methods of a animal base class we
> > > use in our complex Zoo application, but they are als
. If a voter has only
ranked four choices and a fifth runoff phase is neccessary,
their ballot is discarded, and the 50% mark is recalculated
for that phase to account for the reduced number of ballots.
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are usually re-used through Acquisition only.
I'm not sure this has any impact on the 'Method Binding'
argument floating around, but I thought I'd mention it again
in that context.
HTH,
Michael Bernstein.
ks.
Perhaps we need an object type that is not directly
accessible from a client (but may only be called or rendered
from other objects) in order to clarify the distinction.
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way of integrating Membership+LM
with the local roles interface. I also modified my copy of
Membership to authenticate off of an NT PDC via SMB from a
Solaris box.
Most LoginManager and Membership discussion happens on the
Zope-PTK mailing list, not Zope-Dev.
Cheers,
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ToDo would need to be reworked so that it's 'Done' property
could only be set if all associated Deliverables (if any)
were also done (Steve McConnel (sp?) calls these 'binary
milestones').
What do you think, is that simple enough?
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culties in adding SMB authentication
to PersistentUserSouce.py, and Bill Andersons dificulties
with password encryption on some Unices, I think that this
would be a *very* worthwhile effort. Such a project might
also give you the mandate to get DC to fix the Zope i
) into a
beginners 'Zen of ZPatterns' tutorial.
Thanks again for such a simple example!
Michael Bernstein.
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users folder
there, and paste the LM (also named acl_users, of course).
After that, it just worked, so I never encountered your
particular problem.
Michael Bernstein.
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>
> Again.. this is an embarrassingly trivial example.. but here it goes:
> [snip details]
> That's it. I can't imagine anything simpler. ;-) Really!
Thanks, I'll be trying this out at work t
e to play with this today, but I'll make
time to do so tomorow. How easy would it be for you to write
a step-by-step HowTo/WalkThrough of creating the example? I
can edit it and flesh it out if you can write a bare-bones
version.
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method, I'd like to hear them.
Let me know how it goes,
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"Phillip J. Eby" wrote:
>
> At 09:49 PM 10/4/00 -0700, Michael Bernstein wrote:
> >
> >While I wouldn't say that there has been an actual 'paradigm
> >shift' between the original RIPP presentation and ZPatterns,
>
> What's happene
ementation (though
stable) may have further architectural changes coming down
the pipe.
HTH,
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s along the way.
I'm familiar with the convention of separating 'data' from
'business logic' from 'presentation logic', but this new
four-way separation (storage, domain, implementation, UI) is
confusing the heck out of me.
I know that both of you (Phillip
Chris Withers wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
> > It seems to me that there is a potential 'bridge' between
> > the mailing lists and the wikis - The mailing list archives!
>
>
>
> I like this idea a lot :-)
After some more thought, I realized
Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > I figured out how to get this to work (finally).
> >
> > In the acl_users LM, add the following two Python methods:
>
> Well, I discovered another problem:
>
> For some reason, when I cre
Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> I figured out how to get this to work (finally).
>
> In the acl_users LM, add the following two Python methods:
Well, I discovered another problem:
For some reason, when I create a PortalMembership member, add the two
Python methods as I described earl
and a list of names,
which was the critical bug in the getUserNames method.
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Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> Does anyone on the list know how to change the getUserNames
> Python method to return a list of names instead of a list of
> objects?
>
> The code in question is this:
>
> user_ids=self.UserSource.getPersistentItemIDs()
>
>
Bill Anderson wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > I *think* I've created a getUserNames python method that returns the
> > appropriate results:
> >
> > Parameter list:
> > self
> >
> > Body:
> >
> > user_ids=
Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> Steve Alexander wrote:
> >
> > Michael Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > > I posted this to the PTK list on Friday, but didn't get any responses
> > > over the weekend, so I'm reposting here.
> > >
> > &
Steve Alexander wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> > I posted this to the PTK list on Friday, but didn't get any responses
> > over the weekend, so I'm reposting here.
> >
> > I feel that a barrier to Loginmanager and Membership becoming more
>
Steve Alexander wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> > I feel that a barrier to Loginmanager and Membership becoming more
> > generally usable for site builders is it's current lack of support for
> > local roles. Specifically, members do not show
that has the User Source name hard-wired in,
though.
However, IANAC (I Am Not A Coder), and I don't know how to do this. If
anyone can offer a cut-and-paste set of instructions to add this into
LoginManager or Membership, it would be greatly appreciat
ere gatewayed into the mailing lists, as well.
Hmm, if ZDiscussions and the mailing lists were gatewayed
into each other, that would get you a much better archive
interface almost immediately, and you could concentrate on
'promoting' ZDiscussion postings to a wiki page instead.
I'm ramb
ethan mindlace fremen wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> > Please change the page so both the title and the description
> > have the same background color, but that the color is
> > alternated between grey and white for odd and even Products.
>
> Ok, w
lain text, I would
> appreciate it.
Please change the page so both the title and the description
have the same background color, but that the color is
alternated between grey and white for odd and even Products.
Thank you,
Michael Bernstein.
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I found this:
http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/
HTH,
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- PushMePullYu ;-)
- MetaManager
- Trigger (TriggerManager)
- IndexManager
- RuleManager
HTH,
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