Hi,
I approve your position Jens.
Moving to git can make sense. Moving to github as primary platform does
not make sense.
Github is a proprietary platform. There is really no justification in
using a proprietary platform for open source projects, especially
considering that many open source
phany.
FYI, I'm using the following buildout:
https://github.com/pjstevns/plone.mongrel2
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: we decided to keep going with the meetings, so I'd be
> happy to see you guys next week in #zope. (Hopefully without screwing up
> the time then.)
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>
I find the summaries useful. They give good insight into what is happening
for people like me who most
umentation (there is upcoming documentation... right?).
To confirm the idea I wrote a basic little script too, which I've
attached also. You can see that @generic works with types, interfaces
or both - thanks to the zope.component machinery.
Any thoughts would be great!
Paul
generic_fu
pective of client code:
* I want to have my objects serialized and deserialized but don't
want to know what format is used, just use an agnostic interface
(z3c.autoinclude wires the correct implementation from the list of
dependencies).
* I want to present a list of possible serialization
t; multiple committers to a single branch, though I don't remember the
> mechanism.
bitbucket and github both support this, yes. (And thus presumably any
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>
> Hi there,
>
> Paul Wilson wrote:
> > I'm about to embark on a module to serialize Zope schemas into the JSON
> > format for my application, taking inspiration from z3c.schema2xml. I've
> > had a look around SVN to se
his has already been
done somewhere?
Also, it makes sense in my mind for a schema2xml and schema2json to
implement the same interface. How does Zope handle this case? With a format
agnostic interface module or something?
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ss based work flow be useful to include in hurry.workflow?
I believe this sort of thing has been discussed on grok-dev:
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/grok-dev/2009-May/008052.html
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> 12345
Thanks for reminding me of this. I keep forgetting that this works!
I only add that if you want to use __getitem__ for publishing, the
items you return should inherit from Acquisition.(Im|Ex)plicit to make
the security machinery happy.
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On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:36:06PM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote:
> On 5/12/09 12:27 PM, Paul Winkler wrote:
>> I agree with a lot of what you wrote, but I don't understand this last
>> bit. All the currently released packages will continue to live on
>> pypi mor
wise man, "Releasing a
package means always having to say you're sorry" ;-)
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But I think
it is pretty easy to show that Zope communicated that message,
officially and unofficially.
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On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:29:16PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote:
> On Mar 30, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Paul Winkler wrote:
>> Ian's Pip tool tries to download everything and work out the complete
>> graph before doing any installation; I've no idea if any of that work
>> coul
Pip tool tries to download everything and work out the complete
graph before doing any installation; I've no idea if any of that work
could be ported to buildout, but it might be worth a look?
https://svn.openplans.org/svn/pip/
(If you guys are both still at Pycon, might be worth a face-to-face
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:34:43PM -0500, Chris Withers wrote:
> Paul Winkler wrote:
>>> I'm not using easy_install, I'm using buildout...
>>>
>>> (yeah, I know buildout uses easy_install, but...)
>>
>> One possibility: try using http://pypi.pyth
where (but it does not tell you why - at least not obviously).
>
> Engage brain ;-)
>
> I'm not using easy_install, I'm using buildout...
>
> (yeah, I know buildout uses easy_install, but...)
One possibility: try using http:
On 3/4/09 9:47 AM, Roger Ineichen wrote:
> Hi Paul
>
>> Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project
>>
>> On 3/4/09 8:16 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Chameleon provided something that made it work for those
>> users, while
On 3/4/09 8:16 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote:
> Paul Everitt wrote:
>
>> When I read Martin's post, I had a similar reaction. Namely, that the
>> convenience of the Uberthing (Plone in this case) will always trump the
>> desire of packages trying to survive on their own
"core" that is only as big
as the manpower to do a great job at keeping it stable. Meaning, very
small. Hopefully the Zope Framework is a tiny little thing that pays
only for what it eats.
Hopefully the goal is to make a very good microframework (or even
better, set of librari
Zope Framework? It will be
interesting to see.
I think there's also a point about the "brand" related to how diluted
the word "Zope" has become, but that is a second point to the
megaframework/platform discussion.
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(Thankfully, as that is hopeless.)
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votes. Loud no's have grown paralyzing. If Martijn's proposal gets
traction, then perhaps we have a way around them.
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rategic planning summit" advertised
itself as addressing.
I think this clarification is informative to Martijn's discussion.
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So far, I've been unable to find a way to accomplish the same thing
with the zope 3 i18n infrastructure, which is blocking us from moving
to plone 3 on the site that needs the overrides. Is this ev
e docs, but it
looks like you've got a pretty good start on them.
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es import parse_version
>>> parse_version('3.4dev-r73090') < parse_version('3.4.0')
True
So what exactly was the problem?
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Is that the concensus? If so, there's an easy solution -
apply something like the attached patch.
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>
> On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 13:14 -0700, Paul Carduner wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Hi there,
>> >
>> >
e last several months now and have
encountered zero problems.
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http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/BetterXMLSupportForPageTemplates
I never even realized until today that all my browser:page templates
are apparently loaded in HTML mode.
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Well, no, it's just a workaround, so it's certainly not better
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 05:26:36PM -0400, Benji York wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The test was failing on those, because it expects "OK" to be the last
> > thing printed by the subprocess.
>
> I do
ine:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ TERM=xterm python -c "import readline" | od -c
000 033 [ ? 1 0 3 4 h
010
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ TERM=linux python -c "import readline" | od -c
000
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Does anybody else see this on a fresh checkout of the zope 2.10 branch?
I think it's pretty new; I had a checkout last week where I didn't get
any test failures.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp/z2branches/2.10 $ python test.py -s zope.component
Running tests at level 1
Running unit tests:
Running:
.
> Hello Paul,
> >
> > Theuni built a new one:
> > http://zopebuildbot.whq.gocept.com/
> > But it's down again...
>
> It's still what I call "experimental". The availability is pretty good in
> general though, unfortunately it didn't res
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 5:48 AM, David Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Paul. Good work. Personally, I am interested in switching out the jinja
> templates for zpt or ctal since am not that keen about mixing template
> languages for myself. It looks like the more recent ch
I've got a fix, with tests, for https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/27
checked in at Zope/branches/slinkp-datetime-27
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What's the story with http://buildbot.zope.org ?
It looks like most of the slaves are either disconnected, or failing
to build at all, with errors like this:
e.g.
http://buildbot.zope.org/Zope3%20trunk%202.4%20Windows%202000%20zc-bbwin3/builds/704/svn/0
...
File "c:\python24\lib\site-packages\b
weekend I hope to make a buildout recipe that
does all this in a more magical way.
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On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Paul Carduner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I would start with the simple HTML approach, personally. It may be all we
> > need.
>
> Hopefully there
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Paul Carduner a écrit :
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> >
> > I would like to develop a buildout recipe that generates aggregated
> > documentation for
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> I've tried to sum up my understanding of how Zope 3 fits in with the Zope
> universe here:
>
> http://zode01.lovelysystems.com/projects
>
> Beyond that, I think
You would then be able to go to
http://www.zope.org/projects/zope3/documentation/z3c.form and see
everything from developer docs, to tutorials, to how-tos, etc.
What do people think of this idea and who wants to help me implement
it this weekend?
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Regarding Ext's licensing, I'm told that they are planning to switch
to an OSI-approved license in the near future; we're still waiting for
more details, but my source is here:
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As I recall, if you look at the revision history, that code is very
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There might even be an existing bug filed about this; I don't
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Basically, I want to write documentation
once (in svn) and have it appear nicely formatted in multiple places:
pypi, apidoc, zope.org, and wherever else. Will this be possible/is it
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>
>
> > I'm wondering where the "Documentation" section is? I'd like to
> > volunteer for *that* section. By the way, the design looks pretty
> >
up-to-date documentation.
>
> - "Community" gives some details about how to join the Zope community
>
> - "Foundation" links to the Foundation site for now. If the Foundation
> website maintainers want to move into this site in the future, they are of
> course
7;ve been meaning to make
some of these changes in pcardune-setup branch but haven't had a lot
of time.
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Hello,
I'm trying to setup a buildbot here for our buildout based packages.
What I don'
> isolation is simply not correct.
Can you think of a package offhand that I might look at to see a good
example of this?
I've got a lot of overgrown, brittle doctests at work that need
gradual reorganization, and I'd love to see some good role models.
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zc.*, etc.). I've started to add the few packages I've
worked on to the ohloh code listings. Anyone with an ohloh login can
do this by going to http://www.ohloh.net/projects/4495/enlistments and
clicking on "Add a new enlistment". I encourage everyone to do this.
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on this front in the near future, it might be a good
idea to make zope.org a summer of code project. Would anyone else
like to start a new discussion thread on the topic of zope.org? I
sure would.
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Hi Peter,
I recently switched setup.py and buildout to use the new zope3.4 KGS
and this caused some problems for existing installations of zcontact.
Please submit a bug on launchpad (http://launchpad.net/zcontact) and
I'll see if I can find what is causing the clonflict sometime today.
-
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>
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> >> Yes, everyone has to sign a contributor agreement, but you do
locked - but perhaps I
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way. For the
> purposes of storing blobs the TMP directory should be on the same
> partition as the blobs directory anyway.
I like the idea, but what will you do if this fails? (eg. the admin
has put TMP on a different mount, or we're running on Windows).
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to change it to 4 spaces?
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Again most developers are pretty demanding about setting up a development
environment.
Here at Zest most of us are comfortable with instancemanager.
There's an egg available in the cheeseshop, but for the latest features you can
also checkout
https://svn.pl
ing example.
Or do you mean something else by "layer support"?
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erested, I'd be happy to propose such an Open Space session. Things
> to talk about would include doctest, buildbot, coverage, etc.
+1.
I'd add "layers" to the etc list.
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I think it's a bug, but then, I don't recall ever stumbling on it
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On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 08:30:58PM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote:
> On 6/18/06, Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >+1, I'd like some way to easily know when a release is no longer
> >maintained. i.e., what's the X in the above formula.
>
> Well,
in the above formula.
as others have observed, bugfixing is easier when you have fewer
branches to patch and test...
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eems obnoxious to do in a stable branch.
and it wouldn't make any sense at all if the deprecation requires you to
replace the deprecated code with new features that don't even exist in
the stable branch, e.g. because of a different Five version.
OK, never mind, I think I've just convince
Who is in
> charge?
Jim is still the Zope Pope.
> Who approves cvs submissions?
Nobody / everybody. i.e. there's no formal process, but
people often complain about checkins they disagree with.
It's generally resolved informally and amicab
;s
#possible?!?).
Yes, it's possible. This works fine in 2.9:
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lly I've never seen ZDOM before.
AFAICT from a very brief look, it's nothing but a different way of
traversing the zope object tree. Possibly convenient at times
but I don't see anything there that can't be done with the "normal"
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ht
is example, but I'd like to be able to
> get the type_name of an object returned anywhere in my site to see if it
> is a 'Folder'.
This is really a CMF question and belongs on the zope-cmf
mailing list; invokeFactory() is a method of CMFCore.PortalFolder.
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 09:50:06PM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote:
> --On 7. April 2006 15:37:38 -0400 Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >This is because the semantics of ZopePageTemplate(id, text=None) have
> >changed. It used to be that if text wa
27;strip'
This is because the semantics of ZopePageTemplate(id, text=None) have changed.
It used to be that if text was None, the contents of www/default.html
would be used. That no longer happends, and pt_edit can't accept None
for the text
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 06:01:30PM -0400, Tres Seaver wrote:
> Paul Winkler wrote:
> > I know who originally added those tests,
>
> That would be me.
I was hoping you'd pop in :-)
> I don't see anything wrong with using a non-Zope2-app
> object for unit t
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 02:35:57PM +0200, Florent Guillaume wrote:
> Paul Winkler wrote:
> >Using an Item or Folder as your root object for tests works fine except for
> >this one issue, so why not allow that?
> >My feeling is that setting up an app is unnecessary work when
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 12:52:29PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 10:04:36AM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
> > I may try eradicating os.environ usage from Testing on my trunk
> > sandbox and see what else breaks...
>
> Answer: nothing. Committed on the
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 10:04:36AM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
> I may try eradicating os.environ usage from Testing on my trunk
> sandbox and see what else breaks...
Answer: nothing. Committed on the trunk.
I did a bit of grepping around too. There are a few tests
that twiddle os.enviro
ay try eradicating os.environ usage from Testing on my trunk
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On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 12:06:25PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:45:11AM +0200, Stefan H. Holek wrote:
> > The VHM tests in Zope 2.9 and trunk broke last night:
> >
> > http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-April/004648.html
> > htt
eeling is that setting up an app is unnecessary work when you
don't need one; for one thing, your test module needs to call
Zope2.startup() first; for another, afaict creating a Zope2.app is
a couple orders of magnitude slower than creating a SimpleItem.
So maybe more people *should* use maker
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On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:30:05PM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
> Paul Winkler wrote:
> > Aside from stuff mentioned on your proposal, we are using macros from
> > zope.app.rotterdam.standardmacros.
>
> Aha. Why? Are you actually using parts of the Rotterdam sk
was me, but I ran test.py -q -all before checking in
so I'm not sure how that happened. Investigating.
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pty id. This *may* be what you want so your physical path
> starts with '' instead of 'blah', but I'm not sure...
I didn't know that. Thanks.
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d like to ask
> for your help on that, otherwise future Zope 2 versions might not
> anymore include the package you're using.
Aside from stuff mentioned on your proposal, we are using macros from
zope.app.rotterdam.standardmacros.
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Item import SimpleItem
>>> item = SimpleItem(id='blah')
>>> makerequest(app).getPhysicalPath() == app.getPhysicalPath()
True
>>> makerequest(item).getPhysicalPath() == item.getPhysicalPath()
False
>>> item.getPhysicalPath()
('',)
>>>
ike. You are safe to wrap the
> top-most object, be it a true "app" or not.
OK. In that case, 2057 really *is* a bug.
http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/2057
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one in makerequest.py lacks an ACTUAL_URL.
If there's no reason for the implementations to differ,
I can delete one definition and just import the other in its place.
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th that in principle,
but if the concensus is that Stefan's right, I'll bow to that.
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One small correction:
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 12:31:55PM -0500, Paul Winkler wrote:
>... I notice that the makerequest
> in ZopeTestCase/utils.py lacks the recent fix for zope 3 views
No, it has that fix; I accidentally looked at it on
a 2.9.1 tarball rather than the trunk or 2.9 branch
default plone front page
with ab.
b) I don't know if there is code that relies on the current behavior of
getPhysicalPath(), i.e. raise an AttributeError if p is something
other than None but still lacks getPhysicalPath.
I can't imagine a use case, but who knows...
rewall administrators.
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/zope-list/2918584
I used something very close to that, I believe I just saved it as
Products/ZeoKeepalive/__init__.py.
(I've changed jobs so I'm going by memory.)
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On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 10:44:09AM +1000, Alan Milligan wrote:
> Unfortunately, the server is out of threads and I can't use
> DeadlockDebugger to see what exactly Z2 thinks each thread is doing.
Have you tried the gdb instructions that come up if
you google "debug spinning z
oked with "M-x pdb". It rocks!
I do that sometimes, but I lack sufficient wizardry to make it
work with through-the-web scripts :-)
But then, I don't write many of those anymore.
All hail Ken Manheimer, pdbtrack is very cool.
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t_trace
set_trace()
... and, very usefully, once in the debugger you can use the "l" command
to see the script source and it gets line numbers right. So Ross, maybe
you can borrow some of Chris' code :-)
Unfortunately zdb doesn't appear to work with zope 2.9 / python
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