[Zope-dev] Re: egg issues: adding namespace boilerplate Products / patching testrunner

2007-04-18 Thread whit
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously whit wrote: 2 items: 1. how does everyone feel about adding the following boilerplate to all occurences of Products/__init__.py to enable the easy creation of Product eggs? Aren't we asking people to move to using python

[Zope-dev] egg issues: adding namespace boilerplate Products / patching testrunner

2007-04-13 Thread whit
on your path to the test search path. I consider this a defect in the current test runner that makes working with eggs and 2.9 or 2.10 rather cumbersome. could we consider adding this or some other solution to this problem? http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/2276 -w -- -- d. whit

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-13 Thread whit
works right now with existing z2 catalogs. -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - - http://www.openplans.org - - m: 415-710-8975 - If you don't know where you are, you don't know anything at all Dr. Edgar Spencer, Ph.D., 1995

[Zope-dev] Re: RFC: Eggifying Zope's extension mechanism (Products)

2007-01-29 Thread whit
-- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - - http://www.openplans.org - - m: 415-710-8975 - If you don't know where you are, you don't know anything at all Dr. Edgar Spencer, Ph.D., 1995 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev

[Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-27 Thread whit
Jim Fulton wrote: whit wrote: I'm not clear on what the advantage would be. I'm probably missing some use cases. I think they are both valid approaches to the problem. my main usecase is to be able to use buildouts in a workingenv without having to rewrite the recipes... right now, I have

[Zope-dev] Re: ploneout - Or how using zc.buildout for a common Zope2 project might look like

2007-01-25 Thread whit
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: whit wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: This is awesome, and by that I don't mean the fact that we have a plone buildout, but that we actually have Zope 2 recipes for buildout. I hope they can be moved to svn.zope.org for further

[Zope-dev] Re: ZCML and 'zopectl test'?

2007-01-07 Thread whit
I just made ZopeTestCase defer all loading until it's layer(essentially deferring the import of ZopeLite which is sort of a subpar way to handle things and using a registry to handle installProducts). most of what happens in zopelite itself should be the layer(rather than carefully isolating

[Zope-dev] Re: [z3-five] RFC: The future of Products.Five

2006-10-31 Thread whit
-use them in other contexts. However most components of Zope 2 are heavily dependent on others. Yes, that's true. But eggs don't necessarily have to have few dependencies ;). Eggs just have well-defined dependencies. And like Whit said, there might be a desire to have certain Zope 2 components have

[Zope-dev] Re: RFC: The future of Products.Five(green eggs and zope)

2006-10-30 Thread whit
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: snip / I don't think all of these things should go into the Products.Five anymore, for several reasons: * We're trying to get away from writing products and into writing Python packages that can e.g. be installed as eggs. * Some of these things are not

[Zope-dev] Re: [z3-five] RFC: The future of Products.Five

2006-10-30 Thread whit
Andreas Jung wrote: --On 30. Oktober 2006 00:01:33 +0100 Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * It is unclear to me at this point what Zope 2's egg story will be. I *hope* that 2.11 will get the same egg story as the Zope 3.4 that ships with it does, though noone has talked

[Zope-dev] Re: PYTHONPATH

2006-10-17 Thread whit
Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:49:14AM -0500, whit wrote: | http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/2206 is resolved for *nix | flavors(sorry for double posting, completely forgot I had posted the bug | before). I have no access to a win box so someone else will need do

[Zope-dev] Re: PYTHONPATH

2006-10-16 Thread whit
on windows). -w whit wrote: silence == consent. will proceed as declared. -w whit wrote: Paul Winkler wrote: On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 06:26:49PM -0500, whit wrote: It seems like if you've set your PYTHONPATH and start zope, you would expect that path to be available. Indeed. Anyone object

[Zope-dev] Re: PYTHONPATH

2006-10-03 Thread whit
silence == consent. will proceed as declared. -w whit wrote: Paul Winkler wrote: On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 06:26:49PM -0500, whit wrote: It seems like if you've set your PYTHONPATH and start zope, you would expect that path to be available. Indeed. Anyone object to this going forward

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.10.0 released

2006-10-03 Thread whit
thanks guys...know this one was a long time in the coming. -w Andreas Jung wrote: Hi all, on behalf of Zope developer community I am pleased to announce the release of Zope 2.10.0. You can download Zope 2.10.0 from: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.0/ Some new features of Zope

[Zope-dev] Re: PYTHONPATH

2006-09-28 Thread whit
Paul Winkler wrote: On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 06:26:49PM -0500, whit wrote: It seems like if you've set your PYTHONPATH and start zope, you would expect that path to be available. Indeed. Anyone object to this going forward? Anyone think this is a bug that should be fixed(on older versions

[Zope-dev] Re: In Defense of ZClasses

2006-09-28 Thread whit
if zclasses(and some of the niceties that depended on them like ZPatterns) could reliably roundtrip to the filesystem, would we be having this conversation? I don't know...it seems like if you tackled the less sexy problem of making zclasses play with normal developer tool chain, the divide

[Zope-dev] Re: ZClass Maintenance

2006-09-28 Thread whit
ZClasses don't get better from writing long postings. Ah, yes but I can write much faster than I can code. What am I doing on this list!?! All I have to do is to motivate someone else to do the work! programmers are generally motivated by concrete contributions ie money, code, beer, or

[Zope-dev] PYTHONPATH

2006-09-27 Thread whit
I've been working with workingenv.py and zope a bit. It offers a very nice fashion of working with zope(constrains python and setuptools to operating in a restricted environment). there are some lumps. you have to call the --home flag when creating the environment. I haven't successful made

[Zope-dev] Re: Adding INSTANCE/lib/python to PYTHONPATH

2006-08-31 Thread whit
Sidnei da Silva wrote: Looks like INSTANCE_HOME/lib/python is added to PYTHONPATH at some point during startup, but not on the zopectl/runzope scripts. I've tried installing eggs into INSTANCE_HOME/lib/python and they won't load unless it's added to PYTHONPATH at startup time. Thus, I propose

[Zope-dev] the zope, eggs and the testrunner

2006-06-30 Thread whit
don't seem to help). Running the tests via python setup.py test only works when I unflag the testing dependency of zope.testing. anyone been down this rabbit hole? have any suggestions? resources? -w -- | david whit morriss | | contact :: http://public.xdi.org/=whit If you don't know

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Products.Five/trunk/ Five now requires site.zcml to live in /etc

2006-05-30 Thread whit
there is a world of difference between shipping with and requiring...is this language really what happened? I thought the decision was to ship with a site.zcml and package-includes directory in their conventional place, not changing Five's behavior to look for it's skeleton if it didn't find