[Zope-dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread Jason Spisak
Zopists, I am spoiled. I have a large server and until now I have never really monitored memory usage. But I noticed things slowing down a great deal and was curious. Swapping. Machine: RH 6.1 2.2.12-smp Dual Xenon 1 gig memory Zope install: Zope 2.1 Binary ZODB pure. No DA's Home grown ZC

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread Shane Hathaway
Jason, Try /Control_Panel/manage_debug ... it will tell you exactly which kinds of objects are eating memory. Take a "snapshot" then refresh the page after a couple of minutes, and the table should list at the top the name of the class that's taking up more than its fair share. Shane Jason Spi

Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread Shane Hathaway
Jason Spisak wrote: > > Shane Hathaway writes: > > Okay, here's the output. (BTW is was trying manage_debug without the > Control_Panel. That was not intelligent;) > > Class May 22, 2000 4:21 amMay 22, 2000 4:22 amDelta > OIBTree.Bucket 71328135

Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread Jason Spisak
Shane Hathaway writes: I had to restart Zope. I was about to start swapping, and now everyone's a lunch. It's so weird. Even though there is really no one on it that memory is just flying out the window. > Jason Spisak wrote: > > > > Shane Hathaway writes: > > > > Okay, here's the output.

Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread Jason Spisak
Shane Hathaway writes: It doesn't look like the number of objects is dropping like it should when it's set at 3 seconds. After 30 min I'm still at DateTime.DateTime.DateTime +7398 BTree.Bucket+3501 intSet.intSet +1863 IOBTree.Bucket

Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread Jason Spisak
Shane Hathaway writes: > Jason Spisak wrote: > > > > Shane Hathaway writes: > > > > I had to restart Zope. I was about to start swapping, and now everyone's a > > lunch. > > > > It's so weird. Even though there is really no one on it that memory is > > just flying out the window. > > > > > J

Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread Jason Spisak
Shane Hathaway writes: > Go to Control Panel -> Database Management -> Flush Cache and click > "minimize". Then go to Control Panel -> Database Management -> Cache > Parameters. After a minimize operation, the "Total number of objects > in all of the caches combined" should be relatively low

Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 22 May 2000, Jason Spisak wrote: > i did it again, and now I'm down to 160 objects total. > That's more liek it. > But system memory is still dropping. I was at 173632 available (This is > only a half our after the Zope restart BTW. It ate 100MB in under that > time.) before the second

Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread Jason Spisak
Shane Hathaway writes: > Jason Spisak wrote: > > > You must have a large site. > > > > 300,000 + objects > > Whoa... ;-) > > Tell me, what are you doing with 300K objects? > > Shane After being up for about a half-hour my objects reading are: Total number of objects in the database 300280

Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread Jason Spisak
Shane Hathaway writes: > Jason Spisak wrote: > > > > Shane Hathaway writes: > > > > > Jason Spisak wrote: > > > > > You must have a large site. > > > > > > > > 300,000 + objects > > > > > > Whoa... ;-) > > > > > > Tell me, what are you doing with 300K objects? > > > > > > Shane > > > > Techni

Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread Shane Hathaway
Jason Spisak wrote: > > > > After minimizing your in-memory cache, look at the manage_debug screen > > again. Are the refcounts still high? I bet they are... > > > > No. The ref counts drop to hundreds. That's a big relief. Okay, now we know that this isn't a memory leak, it's only related t

Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread Jason Spisak
Shane Hathaway writes: Well, I reduced the 'target size' from 20,000 object down to 1000, and the memory seems to be climbing. > Jason Spisak wrote: > > > > > > After minimizing your in-memory cache, look at the manage_debug screen > > > again. Are the refcounts still high? I bet they are...

Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread Kevin Dangoor
- Original Message - From: "Shane Hathaway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jason Spisak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue > Here's something to

Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 22 May 2000, Jason Spisak wrote: > > > Also, is see reference to 161 Products.GadflyDA.gadfly.kjparser.ParseRule, > > > and I'm not even useing Gadfly! [...] > > Chances are some other product is "reaching in" to Gadfly. Do you have > > the Zope tutorial installed? It uses Gadfly. > > N

Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread Jason Spisak
Kevin Dangoor: > > Here's something to think about: whenever an object is added to or > > removed from a folder, all objects in all neighboring folders and below > > are traversed. The manage_beforeDelete and manage_afterAdd hooks are > > called on each object. > > Jason, I don't know if you've

Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread Jason Spisak
Shane Hathaway writes: Okay, here's the output. (BTW is was trying manage_debug without the Control_Panel. That was not intelligent;) Class May 22, 2000 4:21 amMay 22, 2000 4:22 amDelta OIBTree.Bucket 71328135+1003 IOBTree.BTree 25

Re: [Zope-Dev] Zope 2.1.6 Memory issue

2000-05-22 Thread Jason Spisak
R. David Murray: Since this is a very heavily used Zope install, I am getting trashed faster than you can say 'leakage'. > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Jason Spisak wrote: > > i did it again, and now I'm down to 160 objects total. > > That's more liek it. > > But system memory is still dropping. I was a