[Zope-dev] How long below the radar?

2001-07-09 Thread Jerry Spicklemire
Hi Zope Folks, My apologies if this is not the proper forum for such a post. Please point me to a more appropriate list if you know of one. Also, sorry for the extended absence, things are hectic lately. I have been trying to keep up with the lists, but as you all must know, doing that well cou

[Zope-dev] How long below the radar?

2001-07-10 Thread alan runyan
I couldnt resist jumping in. I have been playing w/ ZOPE and BEA Weblogic for over two years. I would say I know more about Weblogic than ZOPE, but I am more productive w/ ZOPE. thus my 'love' for ZOPE. I believe that before ZOPE can truely take off it will need a miniVend like solution to get

[Zope-dev] How long below the radar?

2001-07-11 Thread jimbo
Hold that thought. In order to fully answer the question I have to ask myself why I choose to use a "below the radar" system in the first place. I'ts said that nothings truly *Free* as in product advertising everything has its cost. When we look at the *cost* compared to other systems Zope/Py

[Zope-dev] How long below the radar?

2001-07-11 Thread jimbo
Case in point. I'm at my local technical college library looking for material. No books on UML or Python. Ok fine they don't teach either one. They don't plan on carring a copy of the Zope book when it comes out. btw wondering when do the people that won *free* copies get theirs. I should

Re: [Zope-dev] How long below the radar?

2001-07-09 Thread Andy
> Maybe flying under the radar is exactly the right place to be, > if it empowers Open Source service providers to help small to > mid-size customers to leverage a full ERP system. GNUe will be > the kind of technology that only the GMs and GEs of the world > have been able to afford, up to now. U

Re: [Zope-dev] How long below the radar?

2001-07-09 Thread Erik Enge
[Jerry Spicklemire] | How about treating some of the most critically needed Zope modules | as a community project? I agree totally. | Can a community wide process be adopted so that an architecture can | be established, and the components then be built by individuals or | small teams, and then

Re: [Zope-dev] How long below the radar?

2001-07-10 Thread Erik Enge
[alan runyan] | I believe that before ZOPE can truely take off it will need a | miniVend like solution to get the PHP/CF/ASPers to ZOPE. What is "miniVend"? | I would like to see a Roadmap for ZOPE. Aye! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] h

Re: [Zope-dev] How long below the radar?

2001-07-10 Thread Andy
> | I would like to see a Roadmap for ZOPE. > > Aye! Other than: http://dev.zope.org/Resources/ZopeDirections.html? -- Andy McKay ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTM

Re: [Zope-dev] How long below the radar?

2001-07-10 Thread Erik Enge
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Other than: http://dev.zope.org/Resources/ZopeDirections.html? Well, it is from February. And besides, it describes what we have/semi-have now, and not what is planned for the future (for example, where do DC think Zope is in three, four or five years?) __

Re: [Zope-dev] How long below the radar?

2001-07-10 Thread Rene Pijlman
On 10 Jul 2001 08:06:42 +0200, you wrote: >| How about treating some of the most critically needed Zope modules >| as a community project? >I agree totally. So what do you think are the most needed Zope products? Regards, René Pijlman ___ Zope-Dev mai

Re: [Zope-dev] How long below the radar?

2001-07-10 Thread Martijn Faassen
Rene Pijlman wrote: > On 10 Jul 2001 08:06:42 +0200, you wrote: > >| How about treating some of the most critically needed Zope modules > >| as a community project? > >I agree totally. > > So what do you think are the most needed Zope products? Form tools! :) Uhmm. Check. Feel free to join the

Re: [Zope-dev] How long below the radar?

2001-07-11 Thread Alastair Burt
This isn't a message to say to that anybody should be coding this or that but a request for someone with a better view of the big picture to clue me in. Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Another thing I'm getting back involved in now is the whole Zope > XML picture. I think good su

Re: [Zope-dev] How long below the radar? [off-topic]

2001-07-09 Thread Alex Satrapa
On Tuesday, July 10, 2001, at 03:26 , Jerry Spicklemire wrote: > Maybe that is the natural state for a rapidly maturing Open > Source project. After all, Linux itself was a "labor in > obscurity" sort of amateur project for nearly a decade. By the time Linux hit the popular press it was well entr