[Zope-dev] RE: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-08 Thread Mohan Baro
Are you planning a manage_install for products? The ability for superusers to install complelte products directly through the management interface, no need for ftp. similar to import/export feature -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason C

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:19:36AM -0500, Jason Cunliffe wrote: > The need to improve the manage interface has grown urgently clear to me > while using Zope myself, designing for all sorts of community and > collaborative Zope-based projects, demos for a number of innocent > bystanders, interested

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:18:37PM -0500, Mohan Baro wrote: > Are you planning a manage_install for products? > The ability for superusers to install complelte products directly through > the management interface, no need for ftp. > similar to import/export feature I hope not! Anyone gaining ma

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Joachim Werner
> > - You can work with full SSL-encryption, maybe even client certificates. > >This is much more secure than TELNET or FTP. (Unfortunately, SSH/SCP, > >while being the "better TELNET/FTP" is not always an option, and it > >always opens up more than necessary) > > what exactly does S

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Jonas Luster
* Joachim Werner sez: > Again you are right, but as Zope is really easy to install, I'd guess that it > is not only used (and installed) by "uberadmins" who know exactly what they > are doing ... Hmmm... coming to think about it. Zope comes with /Extensions as drwxrwxr-x and UID='nobody' in z

[Zope-dev] RE: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Mohan Baro
My view is that as a sysadmin, I rather give ZOPE superuser/manager the ability install products through ZOPE, rather than giving them access to the OS. Another view I have is that I do not want my developers to think about which platform they are working on. ZOPE runs on a variety of OSes and e

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage'?

2001-01-09 Thread Ken Manheimer
[This thread should not be crossposted to both mailling lists. I'm following up to zope-dev, and will post a note to zope saying i did so. In general, please do *not* cross-post - it's almost never justified, certainly isn't in this case.] On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Mohan Baro wrote: > My view is th

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Joachim Werner
On Tuesday 09 January 2001 15:41, Martijn Pieters wrote: > On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:18:37PM -0500, Mohan Baro wrote: > > Are you planning a manage_install for products? > > The ability for superusers to install complelte products directly through > > the management interface, no need for ftp. >

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Jonas Luster
* Joachim Werner sez: Ok, let me try to understand this one. I am a bit dumb, sorry... > - You can work with full SSL-encryption, maybe even client certificates. >This is much more secure than TELNET or FTP. (Unfortunately, SSH/SCP, >while being the "better TELNET/FTP" is not always an