Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-07 Thread Dieter Maurer
Rossen Raykov writes: > > > > * the immediate correspondence between the request and the > > response containing essential information to analyse the problem > > It's application problem and the application have to handle it. > Log all the request/responses on the server or the clie

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-06 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Rossen Raykov wrote: > > BUT: The developer has access to the system, and the dump doesn't have to > be > > included in the HTML output. Maybe error dumps could be sent to a disk-log > > of some sort? > > > > Exactly that's my point. > Log it with as many details as you can! >

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-06 Thread Rossen Raykov
> > Shall the dump help the regular surfer? I doubt so. > > > > Shall it benefit the developer or the tester? Most probably not since they > > are not performing their activities on the production site. > > Oh, they most definitely help the developer or tester, because errors do > appear on produc

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
From: "Rossen Raykov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Shall the dump help the regular surfer? I doubt so. > > Shall it benefit the developer or the tester? Most probably not since they > are not performing their activities on the production site. Oh, they most definitely help the developer or tester, becau

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-06 Thread Rossen Raykov
> > * the immediate correspondence between the request and the > response containing essential information to analyse the problem It's application problem and the application have to handle it. Log all the request/responses on the server or the client side. > > * newbies They have no

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Rossen Raykov writes: > ... > 1. the server log > 2. the output to the client. > ... > In the second case it is better if Zope is returning just the error or the > response. > In the XML-RPC case the error have to be a valid XML-RPC response, not a > stack trace. Thus, this may mean an exc

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-04 Thread Rossen Raykov
" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling. > Shane Hathaway writes: > > If you can, please check out the latest Zope from CVS. Tracebacks no > > longer appear by d

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-04 Thread Dieter Maurer
Shane Hathaway writes: > If you can, please check out the latest Zope from CVS. Tracebacks no > longer appear by default, and even when they do, they do not show any > filesystem paths. (If you already have a checkout, make sure you use > "cvs up -dP" to get the new product.) I am very in

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-04 Thread Shane Hathaway
Rossen Raykov wrote: > My point was that Zope is revealing internal information that is believed to > be private and invisible for the Internet users. > It happens in its default (debug) installation and even after -D option is > removed from the startup script. Rossen and others interested in tr

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-03 Thread Rossen Raykov
- Original Message - From: "Brian Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "R. David Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Rossen Raykov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:20 PM Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] Re:

RE: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-03 Thread Brian Lloyd
> I think most people missed the point here. I don't think Rossen > is asking for help on running zope or getting xml-rpc to work with > it. He's observed a "security" problem: he believes the fact that > a traceback including path names is included in the error response > is a security exposure

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-03 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Eron Lloyd wrote: > The problem here seems to be that you are trying to do XML-RPC communication > with a version of Zope that doesn't support XML-RPC out of the box. You I think most people missed the point here. I don't think Rossen is asking for help on running zope or get

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-02 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 04:01:41PM -0500, Eron Lloyd wrote: > On that thought, I'd like to see Zope.org become much more modern, and > reflect the *latest* and *greatest* functionality of Zope. Deprecation of the > hybrid PTK that's used, as well as updating and polishing of the site > regularl

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-02 Thread Eron Lloyd
The problem here seems to be that you are trying to do XML-RPC communication with a version of Zope that doesn't support XML-RPC out of the box. You should use a version >= 2.4.0 to get this to work. From the output you sent below, it looks like you're trying to invoke an RPC method call agains

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-02 Thread kapil thangavelu
he's testing against zope.org and the traceback is enclosed html comments, which probably does mean it is debug mode. as for the concerns... i leave that to others. -k On Tuesday 02 April 2002 12:18 pm, Chris McDonough wrote: > You are running Zope in debug mode (with the -D switch in the

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] isecure XML-RPC handling.

2002-04-02 Thread Chris McDonough
You are running Zope in debug mode (with the -D switch in the "start" file). This is the default. Please try running Zope in non-debug mode (remove the -D switch) and try this again. - Original Message - From: "Rossen Raykov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTEC