Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-20 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 15 April 2004 17:11, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Anyway, I guess the tokenizer is > fine too, and might even be faster for all I know, just seems an > unfortunate duplication of work, plus I checked in importchecker for > little reason. :) No, Fred was just a bit faster than me with impr

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Thursday 15 April 2004 13:22, Martijn Faassen wrote: Note that for checking dependencies in Python code I still think this tool could be improved by using technology from importchecker.py http://cvs.zope.org/Zope3/utilities/importchecker.py which can use Python's compile

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-15 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 15 April 2004 13:22, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Note that for checking dependencies in Python code I still think this > tool could be improved by using technology from importchecker.py > > http://cvs.zope.org/Zope3/utilities/importchecker.py > > which can use Python's compiler module to l

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Thursday 15 April 2004 11:39, Casey Duncan wrote: Additionally (and Jim and I have discussed this amongst ourselves) I feel strongly that the dependancies should be enforced by tests. That is, if you introduce and errant dependancy (by adding an import to a new package no

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-15 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 15 April 2004 11:39, Casey Duncan wrote: > Additionally (and Jim and I have discussed this amongst ourselves) I > feel strongly that the dependancies should be enforced by tests. That > is, if you introduce and errant dependancy (by adding an import to a new > package not in the stdlib

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 11:39, Casey Duncan wrote: > Additionally (and Jim and I have discussed this amongst ourselves) I > feel strongly that the dependancies should be enforced by tests. Good point. > The dependancy tests might need to be separate from unittests because > they would probably re

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 10:23, Jim Fulton wrote: > Each separately distributed package will have a DEPENDENCIES.cfg that is > created by hand and that *constrains* dependencies on other packages. It > makes explicit the intended dependencies. Dependencies not listed here > are bugs. Adding depenenc

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-15 Thread Jim Fulton
Barry Warsaw wrote: On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 09:25, Jim Fulton wrote: From the zope package README.txt: "Zope Project Packages The zope package is a pure namespace package holding packages developed as part of the Zope 3 project. Generally, the immediate subpackages of the zope package sho

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-15 Thread Jim Fulton
Lennart Regebro wrote: From: "Sidnei da Silva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Move component-architecture packages out of 'zope' into 'ca', and then we don't have the 'zope' vs 'Zope' issue anymore. 'ca' feels weird. Canada? caca? I don't like it. 'z' is better then. Of course that means that suddenly

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 09:25, Jim Fulton wrote: > From the zope package README.txt: > >"Zope Project Packages > >The zope package is a pure namespace package holding packages developed as >part of the Zope 3 project. > >Generally, the immediate subpackages of the zope package sh

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-15 Thread Lennart Regebro
From: "Sidnei da Silva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > - Move component-architecture packages out of 'zope' into 'ca', and >then we don't have the 'zope' vs 'Zope' issue anymore. 'ca' feels weird. Canada? caca? I don't like it. 'z' is better then. Of course that means that suddenly the component archi

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-15 Thread Jim Fulton
Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 08:59:44AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | >So, what about this: | > | >zope.component | >zope.interfaces (?) | >zope.configuration | >zope.testing | >zope.schema (soon-to-be-dead?) | > | >- All move to 'ca.*' | | Most of this has nothing to do with the co

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-15 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 08:59:44AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | >So, what about this: | > | >zope.component | >zope.interfaces (?) | >zope.configuration | >zope.testing | >zope.schema (soon-to-be-dead?) | > | >- All move to 'ca.*' | | Most of this has nothing to do with the component architecture. |

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-15 Thread Jim Fulton
Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 11:46:27AM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: | >- The packages in "z" can be used for more than just Zope | | +2 So, here's an idea: - Move component-architecture packages out of 'zope' into 'ca', and then we don't have the 'zope' vs 'Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-15 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 11:46:27AM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: | >- The packages in "z" can be used for more than just Zope | | +2 So, here's an idea: - Move component-architecture packages out of 'zope' into 'ca', and then we don't have the 'zope' vs 'Zope' issue anymore. I've

[Zope-dev] Re: More arguments for "z" (was Re: Zope and zope)

2004-04-15 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jim, let's make this telegraph style :) OK, here's another. What about renaming the Zope 3 zope package to "z". +1 - It fits with the expansion of "Zope": "Z Object Publishing Environment". - It's short :) - *At this time* (but after the move to svn), it's not too hard to make a change lik