Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: [Exuserfolder-devel] Zope 2.5b1 release

2001-11-29 Thread Chris Withers
Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: > > Anyway. In case you were wondering what the previous email meant, there's > the > actual meaning d8) I'm sure Andy's got a point, but we haven't got the context of those points. Is he complaining about the change in UserFolder API in Zope 2.5? cheers, Chris

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: [Exuserfolder-devel] Zope 2.5b1 release

2001-11-29 Thread Paul Everitt
Whew, that email (and the preceding one in the thread) is quite a whopper. In substance, amk raises some pretty serious issues that we need to come to grips with very quickly. I don't have enough information to respond right now, but trust that we'll get a good response back today. Neo-mode

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: [Exuserfolder-devel] Zope 2.5b1 release

2001-11-29 Thread Paul Everitt
Yikes, it was pointed out to me that I typed "amk" instead of "akm". Though I knew it was Andrew Milton and not Andrew Kuchling, I mixed up the letters. (In fact, as I was typing it, I was thinking "wow, that looks like Andrew Kuchling's monogram.") --Paul Paul Everitt wrote: > > Whew, th

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: [Exuserfolder-devel] Zope 2.5b1 release

2001-11-29 Thread Steve Alexander
A K Milton wrote: > > > a) The change to manage_* seems to be completely arbitrary, since we already >had _do* methods that meant you didn't have to call manage_users with >fake submit buttons. So what is the point of having manage_ ? They were added in response to this fishbowl propos

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: [Exuserfolder-devel] Zope 2.5b1 release

2001-11-29 Thread Steve Alexander
Steve Alexander wrote: > > In summary: > > I want to make sure that things are no worse in Zope 2.5 final than in > Zope 2.5. Any breakage caused by this API change is a bug, and needs to > be sorted out by Zope 2.5 final. That should have read: I want to make sure that the user managem

RE: [Zope-dev] Fw: [Exuserfolder-devel] Zope 2.5b1 release

2001-11-29 Thread Brian Lloyd
> > a) The change to manage_* seems to be completely arbitrary, > since we already > >had _do* methods that meant you didn't have to call manage_users with > >fake submit buttons. So what is the point of having manage_ ? > > > They were added in response to this fishbowl proposal: > > http

RE: [Zope-dev] Fw: [Exuserfolder-devel] Zope 2.5b1 release

2001-11-29 Thread Brian Lloyd
> I see an intention not to break other user folder products. Given that > the fishbowl proposal in question is supposed to make for a very small > change, any breakage in existing products is a bug in its implementation. I've just checked in changes that I believe address all of the issues (t