Re: [ZWeb] new.zope.org still in the works?

2009-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, new.zope.org is dead for two reasons: * it seemed to be big a project to get enough volunteer content. I hope that microsites will avoid this problem. * there were issues with the design, the legal terms surrounding the design, the responsiveness of the designer and the implementation

Re: [ZWeb] svn server broken

2008-11-09 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Before noticing svn.zope.org was down, I noticed that buildouts seem to be failing/hanging somewhere in httplib. I now suspect this is possibly because various setup.py's have a 'url' entry that references svn.zope.org and setuptools might go off and try to read it, resulting in a hang

Re: [ZWeb] Fwd: [ZF] foundation site confusion

2006-11-14 Thread Martijn Faassen
Andrew Sawyers wrote: Looks like it's working right herebut the redirect isn't going to the beta pages. Yeah, let's redirect it to foundation.zope.org, that's better than what's in the original place. We should also make www.zope.org/foundation point to foundation.zope.org. I do not

Re: [ZWeb] the wikis is evil discussion

2006-10-14 Thread Martijn Faassen
Simon Michael wrote: Thanks Martijn, all. We made some good progress. For clarity, I heard no arguments against me trying the below so right now I have this action and will report any results here asap. (11:01:29) sm: yes, some good progress (11:01:40) sm: increased clarity understanding of

[ZWeb] I go away for a few days :)

2006-10-14 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, I go away for a few days (to a Zope 3 sprint in Germany, still there), and lots happened! Sorry I wasn't involved earlier, I only got caught up today. Let's first start with the pieces of *good news*: * we got a team of people very much involved with DNS now and the situation seems to

[ZWeb] the wikis is evil discussion

2006-10-10 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Okay, Fred accidentally sparked something there. Let's all calm down first. Thanks. :) This is what we're going to do: * zope.org is going to be evolved using the microsites approach. * we're also look into getting some simple stuff done on zope.org. While we will try touching

Re: [ZWeb] Fwd: zope.org DNS screwed up

2006-10-10 Thread Martijn Faassen
Andrew Sawyers wrote: Can we get the access info spread to a larger group please. I believe jens and myself are good candidates. I'm glad Justin is on it now. :) Sharing access is an important priority. I also listed Chris Withers as he showed an interest. Regards, Martijn

Re: [ZWeb] serving up static files from www.zope.org

2006-09-29 Thread Martijn Faassen
Justizin wrote: On 9/28/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Withers wrote: Justizin wrote: I don't want to take all the cookies, but like I said, I already own a bunch of apaches, including siggraph.org and turing.acm.org, as a volunteer. I'd prefer the stuff we're talking

Re: [ZWeb] serving up static files from www.zope.org

2006-09-27 Thread Martijn Faassen
Justizin wrote: On 9/27/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] So, who is volunteering to be Static Czar? I don't want to take all the cookies, but like I said, I already own a bunch of apaches, including siggraph.org and turing.acm.org, as a volunteer. The latter probably

Re: [ZWeb] Apache, anyone?

2006-09-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Chris Withers wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: Personally, I don't care where www.zope.org is currently located, and I also think we should replace it part by part with microsites, like wiki.zope.org, bugs.zope.org, news.zope.org, products.zope.org and so on, Be careful the multiple domain

Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope

2006-09-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Justizin wrote: So.. I was talking to Philipp the other day on IRC, wondering why http://namespaces.zope.org/zope Doesn't actually exist on on the intarweb. At first I wondered if it was a requirement, like for a DTD, and P says no, so I believe him. We did agree that it would be nice if

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Justizin wrote: On 9/26/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I'm glad to be the lead, and I'm glad for either of the other guys to be the lead. ;d You're the only one volunteering for this right now, as far as I can see, so if you think you and Jens can get along after

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, I missed this so I'm very happy Jens cc-ed this onto this list. Incidentally I'd like to float the idea of moving zopewiki to (some incarnation of) zope.org. Eg put it at zope.org/wiki +1 on the idea, it wouldn't even have to be in the same Zope instance, rewrite rules can do the

[ZWeb] Re: updated zope foundation website texts in svn.zope.org

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Darryl Cousins wrote: Hi Martijn, I'll take a look at the code, to investigate whether we want to maintain this on svn.zope.org eventually. Are you a svn.zope.org committer, by any chance? My signed Zope contributors agreement went in the mail last week. Great! Faxes to Jim tend to speed

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Andrew Sawyers wrote: This is all documented in subversion IIRC. Jim will know. We need to make sure there are people in the foundation (besides Jim and ZC) who know. I'll ask Jim. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 9/25/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason it should be done, would be to improve the underlying hardware. The other reason would be so that the community can manage all aspects of it's setup. If it's still like it was, then parts of the architecture

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Andrew Sawyers wrote: We just need to resurface the svn location of the doc and update if necessary. Working on getting it. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 9/25/06, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately all the pieces above Zope, like rewrite setups, are out of reach and only accessible by ZC. Right. So... A minimum change would be to move name servering to somewhere controlled by ZF? Yes, this is

[ZWeb] we now have a repository for ZF restructured text

2006-09-22 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, The official repository for restructured text that will become the Zope Foundation website is here: http://svn.zope.org/web/zf/trunk You can check it out: svn co svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/web/zf/trunk zf You can also do a writeable checkout if you have permissions: svn co

Re: [ZWeb] volunteer for transforming ReST + templates into HTML

2006-09-20 Thread Martijn Faassen
Darryl Cousins wrote: [snip] index.html - docs/ index.html other-docs.html - foo/ index.html other-foo-docs.html - other-home-directory-docs.html Thats the structure we are aiming at? That's the generated structure. Something like: foo.txt bar.txt baz index.txt qux.txt

Re: [ZWeb] volunteer for transforming ReST + templates into HTML

2006-09-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Justizin wrote: I think there is already python code for doing this: http://www.zope.org/Members/k_vertigo/Products/CMFDeployment Thanks. This is assuming the data is already in Zope and specifically a CMF site, though. I'm trying to avoid the whole technology equation for the time being.

[ZWeb] volunteer for transforming ReST + templates into HTML

2006-09-18 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, I started doing some work on transforming the restructured text content + templates into HTML pages, but I didn't get very far, and I figured instead I ask a volunteer. So, the task: Write code (such as a Python script) that takes the restructured text files (that I will send

Re: [ZWeb] volunteer for transforming ReST + templates into HTML

2006-09-18 Thread Martijn Faassen
Justizin wrote: On 9/18/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I started doing some work on transforming the restructured text content + templates into HTML pages, but I didn't get very far, and I figured instead I ask a volunteer. So, the task: Write code (such as a Python

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-05 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: semi-stretchable Would be nice if IE supported min-width and max-width in css. It doesn't. The only way I've seen anyone get that to work in IE is with some nasty javascript hack. We can keep going down this road though, fine with me. We'll be here for literally

[ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: http://www.modscape.com/zope Please let me know of any bugs and what your browsers/os setup is. Thanks for doing this work. Zope Foundation Design 1, Version 1 * Try the nav. * Updated the colors of the nav to make it stand out more. * Added the

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 9/4/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is 800x600 that common these days? Hardly by people that would be interested in Zope, right? Trying it again on a 1200x1024 screen, with a window not full-screen so it's more like 1024 (my usual browser side), I

[ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey Tom, Thinking about this item some more, I thought I'd talk a bit about what we're trying to accomplish. Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: o The simple nature of the site means a thinner page is more appropriate. Most of the content will be text that is easier to read the less wide the

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Sep 2006, at 10:26, Martijn Faassen wrote: o Trading in having the space on the sides for less control over all page layouts. I'm going for functional control in this case over a prettier layout. o

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: An alternative would be to have separate designs for Foundation and the rest of the site. Anyone have opinions on whether this is a good or bad idea? I was under the impression that the two were separate and we were trying to decide on a design for the foundation first,

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-28 Thread Martijn Faassen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 8/28/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * I get text flowing into each other in the sidebar. About The Foundation overlaps whatever is on the next line, with the word Foundation on the next line. There's another such instance lower down, where it says

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-28 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: - What content do we need and where should it go. I'm working on the content itself, so no need to concern yourself too much with this during the design phase, except where it's needed to flesh out the design aspects, of course. As I already mentioned, I think

Re: [ZWeb] Re: rough draft of site

2006-08-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
foundation web team wrote: This is concering the new zope foundation site draft we are focusing only structure NOT content. Obviously structure and content (as well as good presentation) are all important. We can't really set up a good structure if we don't think about the content,

Re: [ZWeb] Re: volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig

2006-08-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: Yeah, thats the problem. Because IE6 doesnt fully support the hover function in CSS you need a javascript 'hack' to get a flyout to work. It actually a very small and clean script, but an IE hack nonetheless. More info here:

[ZWeb] Re: volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig

2006-08-24 Thread Martijn Faassen
Chris Withers wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: * possibly no drop-down menus at the top. We could simply have links there, or possibly a standard left-hand side navigation. This design is the top page; we need to see a sub-page design as well. I like the dropdowns ;-) Tom said he'd work

Re: [ZWeb] volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig

2006-08-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Andrew Sawyers wrote: What's up with zopefoundation.org - especially since it's changed since I looked at it yesterday? :P) We were making sure zopefoundation.org points to www.zope.org/foundation. zopefoundation.org was on a completely separate system that Mark Pratt was kind enough to set

[ZWeb] Re: volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig

2006-08-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: I'm here. I'll tweak the design per the suggestions below and send it out. I actually worked on another one since then. Ill send that out as well. Tom, you're awesome! Thanks! Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist -

Re: [ZWeb] volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig

2006-08-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 8/22/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I propose letting www.zope.org/foundation point to a Apache directory, where we maintain HTML files. We will then generate such HTML files from restructured text we maintain in the zope SVN repository, using

[ZWeb] website design discussion

2006-08-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
[taking people off the cc list, changing the title] Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: http://modscape.com/zope I added Design 2. I like it much better than Design 1. I think we should work off of Design 2 Thoughts? Hey, great! I'm afraid I prefer design 1, myself. :) What do you like better about

Re: [ZWeb] volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig

2006-08-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Mark Pratt wrote: [snip] Doesn't matter what system is used but we certainly have less than before -- unless anybody considers a zope.org page with 8 pdf downloads progress. I agree we have less than before, sorry. Then again, before we had two foundation websites with diverging information,

[ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: Looks like the first design is the preferred one. Okay, let's stick with design 1 then, it appears we got a consensus about this from looking at the thread. Maybe I just liked the second because it was the most recent. You're points below are all good. I'll try

[ZWeb] the zope foundation contents discussion

2006-08-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, We seem to be making good process on layout and technology. Now as to contents. What should the Zope Foundation website contain? Right now we have a whole bunch of PDFs, some describe rules for the foundation (bylaws, intellectual property policy), some of these are signable

[ZWeb] low-hanging fruit: planetzope.org to planet.zope.org?

2006-08-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, This would seem to be low-hanging fruit, as it already works. Right now we have planetzope.org. It'd be nice if we could put this under planet.zope.org. We seem to have two alternatives: make planet.zope.org point directly to planetzope.org by doing something DNSy, or

[ZWeb] volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig

2006-08-22 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, It's nearing september, and I'd like to start some work on zope.org, in particular www.zope.org/foundation. I'm looking for volunteers to help. As you all probably know, we have a Zope Foundation, of which I'm a board member (representative for the committer members). Aroldo

Re: [ZWeb] Version 3

2006-03-21 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: http://www.modscape.com/zope/v3 Updated. Pretty much ready to roll. Please send along any comments. Wow, great work! Looks nice. I agree with Brad Allen's comments about Zope needing to project a bit of seriousness, and this is serious with still enough color.

Re: [ZWeb] Re: zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-07 Thread Martijn Faassen
baiju m wrote: * we need start collecting Zope 3 documentation we can put online. We need to mine what's there online right now, approach the creators with a proposal for a new home (we could even have a mockup of it all in the grand new design, see next point), and process the documents so we

Re: [ZWeb] new zope.org: zope newsletter

2006-01-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Sorry it took a bit to reply to this. Andrew Sawyers wrote: I asked this in IRC, but don't think I got an answer: Should I work on setting up something on one of the current zope.org app servers or do we have another place where this work will be done. I started something awhile back

Re: [ZWeb] new zope.org: zope newsletter

2006-01-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Michael Haubenwallner wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: bakhtiar a hamid wrote: On Thursday 19 January 2006 14:40, Carlos de la Guardia wrote: We could also compile automatically some news items, Releases and announcements and call them the newsletter. i would think planetzope.org fits