Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-27 Thread Andrew Sawyers
You didn't cc tres - but I'm sitting next to him, and informed him *we* volunteered cabana if we want it.Tres actually doesn't use cabana as a nameserver - mainly me (unless the other guys have changed how the have their domains setup). A On 9/27/06 3:52 AM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-27 Thread Chris Withers
Andrew Sawyers wrote: You didn't cc tres Yeah, I know, but since Jens shouted at me shortly afterwards, I didn't think I'd rectify the situation ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk

Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope

2006-09-27 Thread Justizin
Will they slave a zone these days? ;) On 9/27/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: If DNS is a bottleneck I volunteer to host the zope.org zone on my colocated servers (ns1.dataflake.org as primary, ns1.zetwork.com as secondary). The data center they are in (in

Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope

2006-09-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 27 Sep 2006, at 17:01, Justizin wrote: Will they slave a zone these days? ;) On 9/27/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: If DNS is a bottleneck I volunteer to host the zope.org zone on my colocated servers

Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope

2006-09-27 Thread Chris Withers
Justizin wrote: Perhaps I am making a wild and sweeping assumption here, but I think that Chris is talking about the DNS servers which are controlled by software the team I worked on at Rackspace was responsible for, and look like ns.rackspace.com. ;) Yep, so you're responsible for that crappy

Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope

2006-09-27 Thread Justizin
On 9/27/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justizin wrote: Perhaps I am making a wild and sweeping assumption here, but I think that Chris is talking about the DNS servers which are controlled by software the team I worked on at Rackspace was responsible for, and look like

Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope

2006-09-27 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 9/27/06 11:57 AM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justizin wrote: Perhaps I am making a wild and sweeping assumption here, but I think that Chris is talking about the DNS servers which are controlled by software the team I worked on at Rackspace was responsible for, and look

Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope

2006-09-27 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 9/27/06 12:10 PM, Justizin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/27/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justizin wrote: When I left, I believe NS and NS2 were both load balanced clusters of three large machines, which probably sit behind PrevenTier, a patented DoS-aversion system,

Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope

2006-09-27 Thread Justizin
I'm taking this offline with Chris. I agree with the concerns about hosting in an individual personal account, although we are doing no better at ZoneEdit right now with JRyan36 or whatever the heck I am called. On 9/27/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/27/06 11:57 AM, Chris

Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope

2006-09-27 Thread Justizin
On 9/27/06, tweeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 27 September 2006 10:37 am, Justizin wrote: Tom - do you know if Rackspace's nameservers are capable of serving up a slave copy of a zone which is managed at ZoneEdit.com? We don't do that any longer on our main geo-load balanced ns

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-27 Thread Justizin
Thanks to both of you. On 9/27/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You didn't cc tres - but I'm sitting next to him, and informed him *we* volunteered cabana if we want it.Tres actually doesn't use cabana as a nameserver - mainly me (unless the other guys have changed how the have

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:39, Martijn Faassen wrote: Andrew Sawyers wrote: Yeah, definitely. And if we go with that tool I volunteer to be hooked up as a secondary. As do I . All this DNS volunteering is great! Unfortunately, I'm a bit at a

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Justizin
On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I believe a single DNS query over UDP can handle around 20-25 entries, depending on their size. Should be no problem for an 'NS' query for zope.org to point at ten or more hosts which run

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Justizin
On 9/26/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Sawyers wrote: Yeah, definitely. And if we go with that tool I volunteer to be hooked up as a secondary. As do I . All this DNS volunteering is great! Unfortunately, I'm a bit at a loss on how to proceed, as I'm not very

Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope

2006-09-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Justizin wrote: So.. I was talking to Philipp the other day on IRC, wondering why http://namespaces.zope.org/zope Doesn't actually exist on on the intarweb. At first I wondered if it was a requirement, like for a DTD, and P says no, so I believe him. We did agree that it would be nice if

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 9/26/06 11:10 AM, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:02, Andrew Sawyers wrote: We can use someone like zoneedit.com for the primary, and then have a bunch of secondaries.I'm sure there's lots of us who

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:48, Justizin wrote: Well, since I don't know about the suggested provider, here's my concern - let's say I manage your DNS on my servers, and you want to provide your own local servers. How do you get a copy of the latest

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Justizin
On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:48, Justizin wrote: Well, since I don't know about the suggested provider, here's my concern - let's say I manage your DNS on my servers, and you want to provide your own

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 18:17, Lennart Regebro wrote: I don't understand what you are debating, really. Could you clarify? This is about propagating data from the primary DNS server (which would be that service Andrew suggested) to the databases

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 18:20, Justizin wrote: (a) ZoneEdit probably has more zones than Rackspace, which is classified in Texas as a Small Business. ZoneEdit is well known enough that a handful of people on this small mailing list know of it. People

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 18:51, Lennart Regebro wrote: On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not. I'm arguing against the higher number of secondaries that you suggested earlier. Two secondaries is enough. I'm guessing that's fine

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Justizin wrote: On 9/26/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I'm glad to be the lead, and I'm glad for either of the other guys to be the lead. ;d You're the only one volunteering for this right now, as far as I can see, so if you think you and Jens can get along after this

[ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope

2006-09-25 Thread Justizin
So.. I was talking to Philipp the other day on IRC, wondering why http://namespaces.zope.org/zope Doesn't actually exist on on the intarweb. At first I wondered if it was a requirement, like for a DTD, and P says no, so I believe him. We did agree that it would be nice if something lived