Re[2]: [Zope3-dev] zope.wfmc UML

2005-10-24 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Stephan, I did it with Sparx Enterprise Architect, is just a package export not the complete model. It's currently xmi 1.1, but if you need EA can export xmi 1.0 or xmi 1.2. Monday, October 24, 2005, 11:18:15 PM, you wrote: > On Monday 24 October 2005 16:40, Jim Fulton wrote: >> >   I trie

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.wfmc UML

2005-10-24 Thread Jim Fulton
Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday 24 October 2005 16:40, Jim Fulton wrote: I tried to sketch an UML diagram from the zope.wfmc package. Can you please have a look if it is half way correct? If I ignore the attributes, it looks pretty reasonable. The picture is a bit incomplete because it doe

Re: [Interface-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] tagged value handling inconsequent for interface methods and attributes and interfaces themself

2005-10-24 Thread Jim Fulton
Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday 24 October 2005 16:44, Jim Fulton wrote: Any comments before I spend time writing this up? This won't work for tags whos keys are not python identifiers. I'd like to encourage people to use ids (dotted names or urls) for tags. Okay, in this case I'll implem

Re: [Interface-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] tagged value handling inconsequent for interface methods and attributes and interfaces themself

2005-10-24 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 24 October 2005 16:44, Jim Fulton wrote: > > Any comments before I spend time writing this up? > > This won't work for tags whos keys are not python identifiers. > I'd like to encourage people to use ids (dotted names or urls) for > tags. Okay, in this case I'll implement a mapping inter

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.wfmc UML

2005-10-24 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 24 October 2005 16:40, Jim Fulton wrote: > >   I tried to sketch an UML diagram from the zope.wfmc package. > >   Can you please have a look if it is half way correct? > > If I ignore the attributes, it looks pretty reasonable. > The picture is a bit incomplete because it doesn't show > w

Re: [Interface-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] tagged value handling inconsequent for interface methods and attributes and interfaces themself

2005-10-24 Thread Jim Fulton
Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 19 October 2005 05:51, Grégoire Weber wrote: while modeling the external API of an application I'd like to use the tagged value feature of the interface implementation. It seems to me that handling tagged values is implemented inconsequently. I plan to ma

Re: [Interface-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] tagged value handling inconsequent for interface methods and attributes and interfaces themself

2005-10-24 Thread Fred Drake
On 10/24/05, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any comments before I spend time writing this up? Sounds like a good approach to me. I'd like something a little nicer to work with than the current model. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Society attacks early, when the individual is

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.wfmc UML

2005-10-24 Thread Jim Fulton
Adam Groszer wrote: Dear Jim, I tried to sketch an UML diagram from the zope.wfmc package. Can you please have a look if it is half way correct? If I ignore the attributes, it looks pretty reasonable. The picture is a bit incomplete because it doesn't show work items, which are, after all,

Re: [Zope3-dev] tagged value handling inconsequent for interface methods and attributes and interfaces themself

2005-10-24 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 19 October 2005 05:51, Grégoire Weber wrote: > while modeling the external API of an application I'd like to use the > tagged value feature of the interface implementation. > > It seems to me that handling tagged values is implemented inconsequently. I plan to make a proposal that wou

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: How does the rotterdam skin work?

2005-10-24 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Jim Fulton wrote: > Paul Winkler wrote: > >> Hi Jim, just de-lurking for a moment: >> >> On 10/24/05, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I think the biggest problem with the ZPT macro approach to look >> and feel >> >>> concerns are not separated. CPSSkins deals with this in it's own way

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: How does the rotterdam skin work?

2005-10-24 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Jim Fulton wrote: > Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: > >> >> Hi! >> the problem is not in the skin itself, but in the model used to create >> "skins". Filesystem-based skins that depend on ZPT macros are doomed by >> definition, unless they are designed to cover most of the site layouts >> you'll find

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: How does the rotterdam skin work?

2005-10-24 Thread Jim Fulton
Paul Winkler wrote: Hi Jim, just de-lurking for a moment: On 10/24/05, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the biggest problem with the ZPT macro approach to look and feel concerns are not separated. CPSSkins deals with this in it's own way. I couldn't quite parse that. What

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: How does the rotterdam skin work?

2005-10-24 Thread Paul Winkler
Hi Jim, just de-lurking for a moment: On 10/24/05, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the biggest problem with the ZPT macro approach to look and feel > concerns are not separated. CPSSkins deals with this in it's own way. I couldn't quite parse that. What is not separated from wh

[Zope3-dev] hurry.query in Zope 3.2?

2005-10-24 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Would there be any interest in merging hurry.query into Zope 3.2? What it does: hurry.query - higher level query system built on top of the Zope 3 catalog. Some inspiration came from Dieter Maurer's AdvancedQuery. See src/hurry/query/query.txt for

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: How does the rotterdam skin work?

2005-10-24 Thread Michael Jansen
Hi Thanx for the answers so far. OK. Just a question that occured to me after posting this. Is this the right newsgroup? I'm subscribed here for over a year. Just lurking, never posted before. So just forgot looking for a users list. I guess there is a zope3-users list? > >>>The tutorials i foun

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: How does the rotterdam skin work?

2005-10-24 Thread Jim Fulton
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Tonico Strasser wrote: Michael Jansen schrieb: Hi Is there anywhere an explanation how the rotterdam skin works. Some insight's to how an when which parts are selected? How to use and expand it? I think i'm making progress in understanding how the parts click t

[Zope3-dev] Re: How does the rotterdam skin work?

2005-10-24 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Tonico Strasser wrote: > Jean-Marc Orliaguet schrieb: > > Yes, and the ZMI-"design" is also broken IMHO. Actions below tabs is > not intuitive, the navtree does not feel good etc. I find the classic > ZMI much better in this respect. > > I guess I'm confusing the ZMI with a Skin definition :) > >

[Zope3-dev] Re: How does the rotterdam skin work?

2005-10-24 Thread Tonico Strasser
Jean-Marc Orliaguet schrieb: Tonico Strasser wrote: Michael Jansen schrieb: Hi Is there anywhere an explanation how the rotterdam skin works. Some insight's to how an when which parts are selected? How to use and expand it? I think i'm making progress in understanding how the parts click

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: How does the rotterdam skin work?

2005-10-24 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Tonico Strasser wrote: > Michael Jansen schrieb: > >> Hi >> >> Is there anywhere an explanation how the rotterdam skin works. Some >> insight's to how an when which parts are selected? >> >> How to use and expand it? >> >> I think i'm making progress in understanding how the parts click >> togethe

[Zope3-dev] Re: How does the rotterdam skin work?

2005-10-24 Thread Tonico Strasser
Michael Jansen schrieb: Hi Is there anywhere an explanation how the rotterdam skin works. Some insight's to how an when which parts are selected? How to use and expand it? I think i'm making progress in understanding how the parts click together, but some additional insights would be nice.