Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Re: Zope 3 as a reliable platform?!?

2006-09-08 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
Lennart Regebro said the following on 09/07/2006 05:50 PM: > On 9/7/06, Rocky Burt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My experience so far... after not having touched a project for over a >> year and than the client wanting some work done, they usually expect to >> have to pay to have it upgraded. > >

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3 as a reliable platform?!?

2006-09-08 Thread Chris Withers
Christian Theune wrote: But changing APIs is what we do, and what we probably have to do, and probably keep doing. I would prefer to see as much of this as possible turned into the past tense... Yup. But it isn't, yet. Unfortunately. Yes, but how much of this is by necessity and how much is

[Zope3-dev] pydoc troubles

2006-09-08 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
i have a small problem using pydoc to look at the Zope3 source, namely zope.proxy and modules where zope.proxy is included: running "pydoc2.4 zope.proxy" or "pydoc2.4 zope.proxy._zope_proxy_proxy" from the shell yields problem in zope.component - ImportError: /path/to/Zope3/src/zope/proxy/_z

[Zope3-dev] Zope 3.2 maintenance

2006-09-08 Thread yuppie
Hi! Recently I started to use formlib in Zope 2. The current stable release of Zope 3 is shipped with Zope 2.9, so I thought I would use actively maintained code. But I stumbled over some rough edges in zope.formlib and zope.app.form and started to wonder if I'm the first person who tries t

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Re: Zope 3 as a reliable platform?!?

2006-09-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 9/8/06, Dario Lopez-Kästen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lennart Regebro said the following on 09/07/2006 05:50 PM: > On 9/7/06, Rocky Burt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My experience so far... after not having touched a project for over a >> year and than the client wanting some work done, they

[Zope3-dev] Re: pydoc troubles

2006-09-08 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
Michael Haubenwallner wrote: i have a small problem using pydoc to look at the Zope3 source, namely zope.proxy and modules where zope.proxy is included: running "pydoc2.4 zope.proxy" or "pydoc2.4 zope.proxy._zope_proxy_proxy" from the shell yields problem in zope.component - ImportError: /p

[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 as a reliable platform?!?

2006-09-08 Thread Max M
Lennart Regebro wrote: Well What is "a lot". Migrating software from 3.1 to 3.3 shouldn't take much more than a day or so, since the incompatibilities should be mostly BBB marked. Once you have figured out how do move one specific API use or ZCML statement changing the reast of the same type is

[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot

2006-09-08 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 7533 Blamelist: flox BUILD FAILED: failed test_2 sincerely, -The Buildbot ___ Zope3-dev

[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 FreeBSD tmiddleton

2006-09-08 Thread buildbot
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[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux tlotze

2006-09-08 Thread buildbot
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3.2 maintenance

2006-09-08 Thread Martijn Faassen
yuppie wrote: [snip] I volunteer to backport some fixes I'm missing in Zope 3.2, but that's no general solution for keeping the current stable branch maintained. I think you bring up a very good point. Of course this also implies new Zope 2 release which include bugfix releases of Zope 3.2. It

[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot

2006-09-08 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 7534 Blamelist: flox BUILD FAILED: failed test_2 sincerely, -The Buildbot ___ Zope3-dev

[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin3

2006-09-08 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin3. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 7533 Blamelist: flox BUILD FAILED: failed test_2 sincerely, -The Buildbot ___ Zope

[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 FreeBSD tmiddleton

2006-09-08 Thread buildbot
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[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux tlotze

2006-09-08 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux tlotze. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 7534 Blamelist: flox BUILD FAILED: failed test_2 sincerely, -The Buildbot ___ Zope3-dev maili

[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot

2006-09-08 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 7538 Blamelist: flox BUILD FAILED: failed test_2 sincerely, -The Buildbot ___ Zope3-dev

[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 FreeBSD tmiddleton

2006-09-08 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 FreeBSD tmiddleton. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 7538 Blamelist: flox BUILD FAILED: failed test_2 sincerely, -The Buildbot ___ Zope3-dev

[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux tlotze

2006-09-08 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux tlotze. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 7538 Blamelist: flox BUILD FAILED: failed test_2 sincerely, -The Buildbot ___ Zope3-dev maili

[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin3

2006-09-08 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin3. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 7538 Blamelist: flox BUILD FAILED: failed test_2 sincerely, -The Buildbot ___ Zope

[Zope3-dev] Re: SVN: Zope3/trunk/src/zope/app/ Make deprecated packages zope.app.layers and zope.app.skins optional.

2006-09-08 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Florent Xicluna wrote: Log message for revision 70047: Make deprecated packages zope.app.layers and zope.app.skins optional. By the way, a zcml feature 'deprecatedlayers' is added. Hi Florent, has there been a proposal for this change? Changes that might affect backward compability should

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3 as a reliable platform?!?

2006-09-08 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Chris Withers wrote: > Christian Theune wrote: But changing APIs is what we do, and what we probably have to do, and probably keep doing. >>> I would prefer to see as much of this as possible turned into the past >>> tense... >> >> Yup. But it isn't, yet. Unfortunately. > > Yes, but

Re: [Zope3-dev] pydoc troubles

2006-09-08 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 08 September 2006 03:13, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > i have a small problem using pydoc to look at the Zope3 source, namely > zope.proxy and modules where zope.proxy is included: Why would you use pydoc? Any conventional documentation tools are useless in Zope 3, because they do not

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3.2 maintenance

2006-09-08 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 08 September 2006 04:12, yuppie wrote: > Are there good reasons why these changes were not backported? > > I volunteer to backport some fixes I'm missing in Zope 3.2, but that's > no general solution for keeping the current stable branch maintained. The short answer is: We are a bit slop

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] How does the static-apidoc script works?

2006-09-08 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 07 September 2006 15:56, Florian Lindner wrote: > I terminated it at this point. At the end it gets very slow, about one link > every two seconds, but it seems to work. It should take about 30-45 minutes to complete. The warnings should get less, but the internal server error indicate

[Zope3-dev] Re: pydoc troubles

2006-09-08 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 08 September 2006 03:13, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: i have a small problem using pydoc to look at the Zope3 source, namely zope.proxy and modules where zope.proxy is included: Why would you use pydoc? Any conventional documentation tools are useless in Zope

[Zope3-dev] Re: pydoc troubles

2006-09-08 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 08 September 2006 09:03, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > Of course, that'd take a lot of resources (which we aren't likely to > have) and it always sems a good idea to at least *allow* third party > software to work with Zope. The API in apidoc is developed in a way that it supports o

[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.2 maintenance

2006-09-08 Thread yuppie
Hi Stephan! Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 08 September 2006 04:12, yuppie wrote: Are there good reasons why these changes were not backported? I volunteer to backport some fixes I'm missing in Zope 3.2, but that's no general solution for keeping the current stable branch maintained. The

[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.2 maintenance

2006-09-08 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 08 September 2006 10:15, yuppie wrote: > Anyway. Should I just go ahead with backporting fixes or should I wait > until a procedure and responsible person are found? I think think it would be great, if you do the backports. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B

[Zope3-dev] Re: pydoc troubles

2006-09-08 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
Michael Haubenwallner wrote: Anyway, using the right paths i get back to where i initially started: the package information is not displayed for several packages pydoc displays package information on zope.proxy, zope.component, zope.interface for example like this: - Help on package zope

[Zope3-dev] Re: pydoc troubles

2006-09-08 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 08 September 2006 09:03, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Of course, that'd take a lot of resources (which we aren't likely to have) and it always sems a good idea to at least *allow* third party software to work with Zope. The API in apidoc is developed in a w

[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.2 maintenance

2006-09-08 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Richter wrote: > On Friday 08 September 2006 04:12, yuppie wrote: >> Are there good reasons why these changes were not backported? >> >> I volunteer to backport some fixes I'm missing in Zope 3.2, but that's >> no general solution for keeping t

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.2 maintenance

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 8. September 2006 14:13:05 -0400 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When you check in a bug fix, you almost always need to: * Check in the fix on the current release branch branches(!). For Zope 2 we actually maintain 2.10, 2.9 and still a bit 2.8. -aj pgp2jdg3pXfMa.pgp D

[Zope3-dev] type checking in Zope 3

2006-09-08 Thread Baiju M
Hi, What is the preferred way to check type in Zope 3. I got lots of output for these two commands: $ find . -name "*.py"|xargs grep "from types" $ find . -name "*.py"|xargs grep "import types" In some places type(module) is used. See this patch, a single -1 is enough for me to not commit it