Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.app.session/zope.minmax

2007-07-05 Thread Christian Theune
Am Dienstag, den 03.07.2007, 10:31 +0300 schrieb Gary Poster: Christian et al: What do you want in regards to the zope.app.session changes that rely on the new package zope.minmax? Very briefly, the change allows the simple zope.app.session approach to cause fewer unnecessary write

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.app.session/zope.minmax

2007-07-05 Thread Gary Poster
On Jul 5, 2007, at 9:30 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Am Dienstag, den 03.07.2007, 10:31 +0300 schrieb Gary Poster: Christian et al: What do you want in regards to the zope.app.session changes that rely on the new package zope.minmax? Very briefly, the change allows the simple

[Zope3-dev] Failing test in buddydemo

2007-07-05 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I see a failing test in the buddydemo both on the buildbot and on my checkout of the trunk: http://buildbot.zope.org/Zope3%20trunk%202.4%20Linux% 20zc-buildbot/builds/1045/test_2/0 It appears not to happen with the egg release. Christian ___

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.app.session/zope.minmax

2007-07-05 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 05.07.2007, 09:43 +0300 schrieb Gary Poster: However, did the tree just grow a dependency on zope.minmax as well? Yes and no. I made a zope.app.session 3.4 branch with no dependencies on zope.minmax. That is what the tree currently uses. The tree also

Re: [Zope3-dev] Failing test in buddydemo

2007-07-05 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 05.07.2007, 08:57 +0200 schrieb Christian Theune: Hi, I see a failing test in the buddydemo both on the buildbot and on my checkout of the trunk: http://buildbot.zope.org/Zope3%20trunk%202.4%20Linux% 20zc-buildbot/builds/1045/test_2/0 It appears not to happen

[Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Jim Fulton
I originally wanted $Id$ RCS keywords in module doc strings so that we could create tools that determined run-time version information. Unfortunately, subversion makes using this a bit difficult, as it doesn't update this information by default. I think that, with eggs, this isn't

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Fred Drake
On 7/4/07, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose we stop bothering to include $Id$ strings. (Note that I'm *not* suggesting we go out of our way to remove them.) +1 These have never proved anything more than distractions. Avoiding them in the future is the way to go. Removing them

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Gary Poster
On Jul 4, 2007, at 3:08 PM, Jim Fulton wrote: I originally wanted $Id$ RCS keywords in module doc strings so that we could create tools that determined run-time version information. Unfortunately, subversion makes using this a bit difficult, as it doesn't update this information by

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Benji York
Jim Fulton wrote: I propose we stop bothering to include $Id$ strings. (Note that I'm *not* suggesting we go out of our way to remove them.) +1 -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Dmitry Vasiliev
Jim Fulton wrote: I propose we stop bothering to include $Id$ strings. (Note that I'm *not* suggesting we go out of our way to remove them.) Thoughts? +1 (Moreover Bazaar for example doesn't support this keywords yet.) -- Dmitry Vasiliev dima at hlabs.spb.ru http://hlabs.spb.ru

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Baiju M
Jim Fulton wrote: I originally wanted $Id$ RCS keywords in module doc strings so that we could create tools that determined run-time version information. Unfortunately, subversion makes using this a bit difficult, as it doesn't update this information by default. If you add the following

Re: [Zope3-dev] Trunk open for feature development towards Zope 3.5

2007-07-05 Thread Benji York
Christian Theune wrote: I've made the release branch for Zope 3.4, you can feel free to start introducing changes for Zope 3.5 into the trunk of the tree. Now would seem to be the time to discuss the fate of the big tree. It is entirely possible to build Zope 3 from eggs only, do we want to

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:08, Jim Fulton wrote: I propose we stop bothering to include $Id$ strings.  (Note that I'm   *not* suggesting we go out of our way to remove them.) Thoughts? I actually use that string all the time to determine who worked on the file last and when the work was

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Jim Fulton
On Jul 5, 2007, at 8:46 AM, Baiju M wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: I originally wanted $Id$ RCS keywords in module doc strings so that we could create tools that determined run-time version information. Unfortunately, subversion makes using this a bit difficult, as it doesn't update this

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Christian Theune
+1 ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Fwd: Preferring final releases

2007-07-05 Thread Jim Fulton
On Jul 5, 2007, at 9:54 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Thursday 05 July 2007 09:43, Jim Fulton wrote: Specifically: Should I make it the default policy for buildout to prefer final releases? I think this is the right thing to do in the long run, however, it will cause buildouts that

Re: [Zope3-dev] Fwd: Preferring final releases

2007-07-05 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 05 July 2007 10:03, Jim Fulton wrote: And for the case that I need the cutting edge, as long as you tell   me the option to use for getting the latest releases, then I am fine. :-) I'm adding a prefer-final buildout option.  The value can be either   true or false.  The

Re: [Zope3-dev] Trunk open for feature development towards Zope 3.5

2007-07-05 Thread Benji York
Stephan Richter wrote: Having said that, I think a Zope 3 meta egg would be a good start towards documenting how to build a Zope 3 application using eggs. Also, packages like z3c.formdemo give further help. I'll look into creating such a thing. Another final issue I see here are the problems

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Trunk open for feature development towards Zope 3.5

2007-07-05 Thread Benji York
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I personally prefer not working with the tree anymore. If people want to keep it around, that's fine, but then they should maintain it. +1 -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing

[Zope3-dev] Re: Fwd: Preferring final releases

2007-07-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jim Fulton wrote: There's a question below that I want opinions on, so I'm forwarding this note here that I sent to the distutils-sig. I'd prefer answers there, but I'll take them here. Specifically: Should I make it the default policy for buildout to prefer final releases? I think this is

[Zope3-dev] Re: Trunk open for feature development towards Zope 3.5

2007-07-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 5 Jul 2007, at 16:45 , Christian Theune wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 05.07.2007, 16:32 +0200 schrieb Philipp von Weitershausen: Christian Theune wrote: I've made the release branch for Zope 3.4, you can feel free to start introducing changes for Zope 3.5 into the trunk of the tree. It

[Zope3-dev] Re: Trunk open for feature development towards Zope 3.5

2007-07-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Thursday 05 July 2007 09:27, Benji York wrote: Christian Theune wrote: I've made the release branch for Zope 3.4, you can feel free to start introducing changes for Zope 3.5 into the trunk of the tree. Now would seem to be the time to discuss the fate of the big

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Fred Drake
On 7/5/07, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. Many of us have that, but it's hard to get everyone to set that up on every machine they use. More importantly, because that's a global setting for the Subversion client, instead of something retrieved from the server, setting it affects

[Zope3-dev] Re: AW: zope.publisher-3.4.0b1_r76188-py2.4.egg

2007-07-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Darryl Cousins wrote: On Sun, 2007-06-24 at 19:06 +0200, Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Philipp, Darryl Betreff: Re: zope.publisher-3.4.0b1_r76188-py2.4.egg Darryl Cousins wrote: My buildout update the zope.publisher egg to zope.publisher-3.4.0b1_r76188-py2.4 from

[Zope3-dev] Re: Trunk open for feature development towards Zope 3.5

2007-07-05 Thread Christian Theune
Am Donnerstag, den 05.07.2007, 16:32 +0200 schrieb Philipp von Weitershausen: Christian Theune wrote: I've made the release branch for Zope 3.4, you can feel free to start introducing changes for Zope 3.5 into the trunk of the tree. It should be noted that the 'Zope3' tree actually

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Trunk open for feature development towards Zope 3.5

2007-07-05 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 05 July 2007 10:48, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I'm not sure what the interaction patterns are, e.g. who's responsible for updating the tree's pointers to newer packages. The maintainers of those packages? They probably know best ... I disagree. While Stephan raises a few

[Zope3-dev] Re: Trunk open for feature development towards Zope 3.5

2007-07-05 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: On 5 Jul 2007, at 16:45 , Christian Theune wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 05.07.2007, 16:32 +0200 schrieb Philipp von Weitershausen: Christian Theune wrote: I've made the release branch for Zope 3.4, you can feel free

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fred Drake wrote: On 7/4/07, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose we stop bothering to include $Id$ strings. (Note that I'm *not* suggesting we go out of our way to remove them.) +1 +1. The only real win for those tags was in

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-05 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:08, Jim Fulton wrote: I propose we stop bothering to include $Id$ strings. (Note that I'm *not* suggesting we go out of our way to remove them.) Thoughts? I actually use that string all

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Trunk open for feature development towards Zope 3.5

2007-07-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 5 Jul 2007, at 17:18 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Thursday 05 July 2007 10:48, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I'm not sure what the interaction patterns are, e.g. who's responsible for updating the tree's pointers to newer packages. The maintainers of those packages? They probably know

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Fwd: Preferring final releases

2007-07-05 Thread Jodok Batlogg
On 05.07.2007, at 16:35, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: There's a question below that I want opinions on, so I'm forwarding this note here that I sent to the distutils-sig. I'd prefer answers there, but I'll take them here. Specifically: Should I make it the default