Re: [Zope3-dev] 'thread_local' AttributeError in zope.security.checker

2007-08-15 Thread Paul Carduner
Thanks for the quick response everybody. Next time I'll be sure to include the full traceback. - Paul On 8/15/07, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've just released a b5 egg which should correct the problem. > > Jim > > On Aug 15, 2007, at 9:51 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > > Previousl

[Zope3-dev] Re: Removed zope.security 3.4b4

2007-08-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Given the momentary confusion surrounding the release of a broken package. By broken package in this case I mean something which seriously breaks many many Zope 3 installations in an obvious way. I think it might be wise to start working out some procedure surrounding such a situation.

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.security problems related to Python 2.5 update? (Was: Removed zope.security 3.4b4)

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Theune
Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 12:02 -0400 schrieb Jim Fulton: > On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Christian Theune wrote: > > I'm not sure that we should have to rely on removing packages like > > those. > > I'm fairly sure that removing them is *not* the right solution. For > example, that might ha

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.security problems related to Python 2.5 update? (Was: Removed zope.security 3.4b4)

2007-08-15 Thread Jim Fulton
On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: [snip] Just ran into this one. I think removing it is the right decision. b2 did work for me, but b4 just broke on me. Try b5. I'd love to try the mysterious b5, but it's just not there. :) I tried to put it there, bu

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.security problems related to Python 2.5 update? (Was: Removed zope.security 3.4b4)

2007-08-15 Thread Jim Fulton
On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:59 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 17:52 +0200 schrieb Martijn Faassen: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Christian Theune wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 14:15 +0200 schrieb Christian Theune: Hi, I saw the error

[Zope3-dev] Re: zope.security problems related to Python 2.5 update? (Was: Removed zope.security 3.4b4)

2007-08-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: [snip] Just ran into this one. I think removing it is the right decision. b2 did work for me, but b4 just broke on me. Try b5. I'd love to try the mysterious b5, but it's just not there. :) Regards, Martijn ___ Zope3-dev mailing

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.security problems related to Python 2.5 update? (Was: Removed zope.security 3.4b4)

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Theune
Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 17:59 +0200 schrieb Martijn Faassen: > Where is this b5? I am still getting b4, not b5. I can't find b5 on the > server. I've put it there now. The actual distribution was missing. I've created the b5 tag and uploaded the sdist package. _

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.security problems related to Python 2.5 update? (Was: Removed zope.security 3.4b4)

2007-08-15 Thread Jim Fulton
On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Christian Theune wrote: I'm not sure that we should have to rely on removing packages like those. I'm fairly sure that removing them is *not* the right solution. For example, that might have broken other applications. (After all, I released b4 for a reason.)

[Zope3-dev] Re: zope.security problems related to Python 2.5 update? (Was: Removed zope.security 3.4b4)

2007-08-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
Christian Theune wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 17:52 +0200 schrieb Martijn Faassen: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Christian Theune wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 14:15 +0200 schrieb Christian Theune: Hi, I saw the error reports about zope.security and got talked to from a few

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.security problems related to Python 2.5 update? (Was: Removed zope.security 3.4b4)

2007-08-15 Thread Jim Fulton
On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Christian Theune wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 14:15 +0200 schrieb Christian Theune: Hi, I saw the error reports about zope.security and got talked to from a few people that they had severe probl

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.security problems related to Python 2.5 update? (Was: Removed zope.security 3.4b4)

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Theune
Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 17:52 +0200 schrieb Martijn Faassen: > Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Previously Christian Theune wrote: > >> Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 14:15 +0200 schrieb Christian Theune: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I saw the error reports about zope.security and got talked to from a few >

[Zope3-dev] Re: Removed zope.security 3.4b4

2007-08-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
Christian Theune wrote: Hey, Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 14:15 +0200 schrieb Christian Theune: Hi, I saw the error reports about zope.security and got talked to from a few people that they had severe problems managing around this. I removed the 3.4b4 distribution from download.zope.org to all

[Zope3-dev] Re: zope.security problems related to Python 2.5 update? (Was: Removed zope.security 3.4b4)

2007-08-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Christian Theune wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 14:15 +0200 schrieb Christian Theune: Hi, I saw the error reports about zope.security and got talked to from a few people that they had severe problems managing around this. I removed the 3.4b4 distribution

Re: [Zope3-dev] 'thread_local' AttributeError in zope.security.checker

2007-08-15 Thread Jim Fulton
I've just released a b5 egg which should correct the problem. Jim On Aug 15, 2007, at 9:51 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Jim Fulton wrote: On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:32 PM, Paul Carduner wrote: Hello zope3-dev, I came across an error I have not seen before. Just for reference, here i

[Zope3-dev] Re: 'thread_local' AttributeError in zope.security.checker

2007-08-15 Thread Jim Fulton
On Aug 15, 2007, at 10:34 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: ... We badly need to get a handle on how we expect people to fetch eggs for packages: having such a refactoring affect an indirect client (one not expecting to track day-to-day development) is a disaster. I'm not sure disaster is the word I

[Zope3-dev] Re: Dependency cleanup: zope.traversing

2007-08-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Richter wrote: > On Wednesday 15 August 2007 08:01, Christian Theune wrote: >> zope.traversing has a dependency to zope.app.applicationcontroller. This >> is because zope.traversing implements the "etc" namespace and has a hard >> coded referen

[Zope3-dev] Re: 'thread_local' AttributeError in zope.security.checker

2007-08-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: > On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:32 PM, Paul Carduner wrote: > >> Hello zope3-dev, >> >> I came across an error I have not seen before. Just for reference, >> here is the last snippet from the traceback: >> >> File "/home/pcardune/Work/ZCont

[Zope3-dev] Re: Proposal: Move ISite to zope.location was: ISite misplaced in zope.app.component.interfaces

2007-08-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Howitz wrote: > Hi, > > after thinking the problem over at gocept we came to the following > suggestion: > > - A site is a place which gives acces to a component registry. > - ISite isn't a good name for the concept behind it, because it is

Re: [Zope3-dev] 'thread_local' AttributeError in zope.security.checker

2007-08-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jim Fulton wrote: > > On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:32 PM, Paul Carduner wrote: > > >Hello zope3-dev, > > > >I came across an error I have not seen before. Just for reference, > >here is the last snippet from the traceback: > > > >File "/home/pcardune/Work/ZContact/zcontact-lp/eggs/tmpgwuq6O/

Re: [Zope3-dev] 'thread_local' AttributeError in zope.security.checker

2007-08-15 Thread Jim Fulton
On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:32 PM, Paul Carduner wrote: Hello zope3-dev, I came across an error I have not seen before. Just for reference, here is the last snippet from the traceback: File "/home/pcardune/Work/ZContact/zcontact-lp/eggs/tmpgwuq6O/ zope.security-3.4.0b4-py2.4-linux-i686.egg/zope/s

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.annotation dependency to zope.app.container.contained

2007-08-15 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 15 August 2007 07:43, Christian Zagrodnick wrote: > For the annotation factory using zope.location and ILocatable would be > sufficient. So we could get rid of the zope.app.container dependency. +1 > We should be a bit more specific about the IContained interface. Does > it make any

Re: Proposal: Move ISite to zope.location was: [Zope3-dev] ISite misplaced in zope.app.component.interfaces

2007-08-15 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 15 August 2007 07:41, Michael Howitz wrote: > - ISite isn't a good name for the concept behind it, because it is   > connected too tight to a website and on having hierarchical   > structures (at least in the code). I think this is a matter of documentation and explanation. Anyone wor

Re: [Zope3-dev] Removed zope.security 3.4b4

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Theune
Hey, Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 14:15 +0200 schrieb Christian Theune: > Hi, > > I saw the error reports about zope.security and got talked to from a few > people that they had severe problems managing around this. I removed the > 3.4b4 distribution from download.zope.org to allow them to contin

Re: zope.security problems related to Python 2.5 update? (Was: [Zope3-dev] Removed zope.security 3.4b4)

2007-08-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christian Theune wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 14:15 +0200 schrieb Christian Theune: > > Hi, > > > > I saw the error reports about zope.security and got talked to from a few > > people that they had severe problems managing around this. I removed the > > 3.4b4 distribution from

zope.security problems related to Python 2.5 update? (Was: [Zope3-dev] Removed zope.security 3.4b4)

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Theune
Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 14:15 +0200 schrieb Christian Theune: > Hi, > > I saw the error reports about zope.security and got talked to from a few > people that they had severe problems managing around this. I removed the > 3.4b4 distribution from download.zope.org to allow them to continue > u

Re: [Zope3-dev] Dependency cleanup: zope.traversing

2007-08-15 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 15 August 2007 08:01, Christian Theune wrote: > zope.traversing has a dependency to zope.app.applicationcontroller. This > is because zope.traversing implements the "etc" namespace and has a hard > coded reference to "applicationcontrol" there. > > In the same place it also looks up si

[Zope3-dev] Removed zope.security 3.4b4

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I saw the error reports about zope.security and got talked to from a few people that they had severe problems managing around this. I removed the 3.4b4 distribution from download.zope.org to allow them to continue using zopeproject and grokproject until we find a fix. I wasn't sure about that

[Zope3-dev] Dependency cleanup: zope.traversing

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, zope.traversing has a dependency to zope.app.applicationcontroller. This is because zope.traversing implements the "etc" namespace and has a hard coded reference to "applicationcontrol" there. In the same place it also looks up site managers (in a hard coded way). As a strategy to remove th

[Zope3-dev] Re: zope.annotation dependency to zope.app.container.contained

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Zagrodnick
On 2007-08-09 20:51:26 +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Roman Joost wrote: we're doing some dependency checking at gocept and I discovered that zope.annotation depends on zope.app.container in its factory. What shall we do with this dependency to zope.app.container?

Proposal: Move ISite to zope.location was: [Zope3-dev] ISite misplaced in zope.app.component.interfaces

2007-08-15 Thread Michael Howitz
Hi, after thinking the problem over at gocept we came to the following suggestion: - A site is a place which gives acces to a component registry. - ISite isn't a good name for the concept behind it, because it is connected too tight to a website and on having hierarchical structures (at l

Re: [Zope3-dev] 'thread_local' AttributeError in zope.security.checker

2007-08-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Paul Carduner wrote: > Hello zope3-dev, > > I came across an error I have not seen before. Just for reference, > here is the last snippet from the traceback: > > File > "/home/pcardune/Work/ZContact/zcontact-lp/eggs/tmpgwuq6O/zope.security-3.4.0b4-py2.4-linux-i686.egg/zope/security/c