Re: [Zope3-dev] zope3 and zope.conf without the zodb

2007-10-31 Thread Chris McDonough
Would you be willing to share your code, particularly your published application and the ZCML to configure Zope 3 to not use the default publication stuff? I'm curious as to how people are doing this. - C On Oct 31, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Kapil Thangavelu wrote: I've been using zope3 as a wsgi

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Proposal for optimized Blob handling

2007-03-07 Thread Chris McDonough
Note that one micro-optimization for PUT requests is to not use a FieldStorage at all because the body is never mime-encoded anyway in practice. I have a monkey patch to do this now, which I turned into a patch for the core, but took out because Phillipp whined at a sprint once. ;-) Here

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Is there an alternative to zdaemon?

2006-12-22 Thread Chris McDonough
On Dec 22, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: Chris McDonough's 'supervisor' is a Python-based implementation of the same basic idea, with even more generality: the 'supervisord' process, for instance, can be controlled from a remote host. http://plope.com/software/supervisor/ That s

Re: [Zope3-dev] Two visions

2006-03-07 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mar 6, 2006, at 9:21 PM, Jake wrote: I think it is a huge mistake to lose Zope branding. After years of building up momentum behind a project, to head off into some strange developer code speak is just going to lose people who are not intimately involved. The world, after many years,

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Use ConfigParser for High-Level Configuration

2006-03-07 Thread Chris McDonough
My $.02: I suspect it might be better to just use XML than configparser as a ZConfig replacement. The config format is a stretch under CP due to the lack of hierarchy. I'm beginning to think the "don't make admins use XML" argument should die. Everybody knows how to edit XML nowadays, a

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: The vision thing

2006-03-05 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mar 5, 2006, at 11:34 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: My main point is that we need to consider each of these audiences, as they have separate concerns. We need to be explicit about this and have messages and technical solutions tailored to each audience. Do we? Messages, perhaps, but we should a

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Two visions

2006-03-03 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:08 AM, Max M wrote: Splitting up Zope to let people use seperate pieces of Zope aka Zed is not a valid reason. Good software practise is a valid reason. But catering for those few developers that wants to use just a few pieces is probably not worth the effort. Here's o

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-01 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mar 1, 2006, at 11:31 PM, Shane Hathaway wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: [...] the process of identifying dependencies and eliminating the silly ones is the valuable work here, and it seems to be getting done by embracing egg packaging, which is really wonderful. Such a gushing

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-01 Thread Chris McDonough
I think packaging efforts are really the key to being able to tell a story like this. The efforts happen to be couched in a process of converting z3 packages into eggs, but really the process of identifying dependencies and eliminating the silly ones is the valuable work here, and it seems

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope3-dev] The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Chris McDonough
I hate to cross-post this, but would it be possible to limit this discussion to a single list (e.g. zope3-dev, maybe)? I'm interested in this topic, but my mail client isn't smart enough to filter it out to only one place and I'm sure there are a lot of other people with the same issue.

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3 web root

2006-02-16 Thread Chris McDonough
On Feb 15, 2006, at 11:52 PM, Jeff Shell wrote: A Zope that was basically zope.publisher, zope.component, zope.interface, zope.schema, and tal/tales (and maybe 'transaction') would be ideal. +1 I guess this is all kindof rambling. I just don't see any benefit to me. I'd rather see any effor

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Re: Who would use this crazy thing called Zope 3?

2006-02-11 Thread Chris McDonough
On Feb 11, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: I'm told that the ZODB is the de-facto way of storing content. Maybe soon the default may be a filesystem. Mmm... My feelings are that there should be a "classic" Zope 3 release which is exactly what exists now (it should make the assumption

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3 web root

2006-02-09 Thread Chris McDonough
FWIW, I'd be keen on seeing a bobolike Zope 3 derivation that included none or very little of zope.app, but that allowed you to configure an instance to publish a single arbitrary root object but assumed nothing else. I think the "filesystem traverser" root object could be one kind of root

Re: [Zope3-dev] Nine new ZC Zope 3 packages

2006-02-06 Thread Chris McDonough
BTW, how impending is "impending"? Days, weeks, months? Anybody know? On Feb 6, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Benji York wrote: My first thought is to consider how the impending charter of the Zope Foundation influences things. ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Z

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: abolishing python: expressions in ZPT TALES

2005-12-28 Thread Chris McDonough
I'm +1 for deprecating python: expressions in the context of views. But I'm not sure what "deprecate" would mean; I doubt they can go away entirely given the body of code that exists which uses them. An interesting thing about python: expressions... I've found that simple "python: foo['ba

Re: [Zope3-dev] Important Heads Up: I'm making IResult private

2005-12-26 Thread Chris McDonough
On Dec 26, 2005, at 8:51 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: FWIW, It would be nice to have some API to return large amounts of content which doesn't live in ZODB without returning an *actual* file object. A real world use case: In a Zope2 application, I depend on being

Re: [Zope3-dev] Important Heads Up: I'm making IResult private

2005-12-25 Thread Chris McDonough
FWIW, It would be nice to have some API to return large amounts of content which doesn't live in ZODB without returning an *actual* file object. A real world use case: In a Zope2 application, I depend on being able to return a "streamiterator" which does decryption as it streams. I canno

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Reunite Zope 2 and Zope 3 in the source code repository

2005-11-24 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 24, 2005, at 6:42 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Thursday 24 November 2005 01:39, Chris McDonough wrote: - There doesn't seem to be as much of a commitment in the Z3 community to backwards compatibility as there is for Z2. Notes like Stephan's last one where he says &q

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Reunite Zope 2 and Zope 3 in the source code repository

2005-11-24 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 24, 2005, at 8:37 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: I recall a slightly different discussion I was involved in. I remember Zope 2 core developers worrying about the inclusion of Five in Zope 2.8; they were worried they'd need to maintain its codebase. I was one of these people. Since the

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Reunite Zope 2 and Zope 3 in the source code repository

2005-11-23 Thread Chris McDonough
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 04:56 +0100, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > I think Martin Aspeli is not the only one who still has no clue on how to > move forward > beyond a certain Fivization of his Zope 2 products. If you do, then that's > great, but I > don't think everyone is in that fortunate si

[Zope3-dev] branched Zope 2.9

2005-11-12 Thread Chris McDonough
FYI (this is mostly for the benefit of the Five folks), I've created a Zope 2.9 branch from the trunk as of about 10 minutes ago. This branch is frozen for feature work; it may need some changing of externals to reflect what we want the initial version of Zope 3 that we want 2.9 to ship with. I d

Re: [Zope3-dev] set_trace in ZODB

2005-04-03 Thread Chris McDonough
On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 21:30, Tim Peters wrote: > [Chris McDonough] > > Where *was* this set_trace? I have a suspicion I'm missing some checkin > > notifications; I don't see any messages that show it getting fixed in > > zope-checkins or zope-cvs (neither

Re: [Zope3-dev] set_trace in ZODB

2005-04-03 Thread Chris McDonough
Where *was* this set_trace? I have a suspicion I'm missing some checkin notifications; I don't see any messages that show it getting fixed in zope-checkins or zope-cvs (neither in my incoming mail nor in the archives). I actually just wanted to make sure I didn't do it ;-) On Sun, 2005-04-03 at