[Zope3-dev] Re: Some thoughts on Zope 3, Zope 3 applications, and Zope 3 instances

2007-01-06 Thread Paul Everitt
Jim Fulton wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Anyway - I hope these perspectives are useful. I'm certainly not disagreeing with what you're saying or with the direction you're pointing out. I think we just need be mindful that there were some good things about the past approaches as well as p

[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 lacks Ajax capability?

2006-05-15 Thread Paul Everitt
Jeff Rush wrote: Benji York wrote: Zachery Bir wrote: I think Benji's commenting on the fact that you're creating a synchronous connection when you hold it open like that. Exactly. As Jean-Marc noted, Jeff's talking more about "streaming" than "asynchronicity" (is that a word?). Well th

[Zope3-dev] Re: A Take on the Hello World Acid Test - from Mandatory Viewing

2006-03-09 Thread Paul Everitt
To answer the question at the end of your document: yes. Please continue on, showing the next smallest possible next step that is interesting. Hopefully this step can be done with making the viewer confront interfaces, adapters, etc. About the middle part, what's really needed to ensure ne

[Zope3-dev] Re: Mandatory Viewing!

2006-03-07 Thread Paul Everitt
Shane Hathaway wrote: Paul Everitt wrote: I still don't think scripters and developers are the same people. I won't repeat Dan's arguments here, but I think his essay is a valuable read for understanding an audience that isn't like most zope3-dev people. Once agai

[Zope3-dev] Re: Mandatory Viewing!

2006-03-07 Thread Paul Everitt
Shane Hathaway wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: My vision for the WebDev project is that you can develop WebDev packages using Zope 2 like features, but the result of the Web development can be generated into a real Python package. That might work, but the story breaks down if the developer can'

[Zope3-dev] Re: Mandatory Viewing!

2006-03-07 Thread Paul Everitt
Shane Hathaway wrote: It is a beautiful story and I dearly want it to work. But the story currently has major limitations; developers reach a point where they have to make a big switch, learn numerous libraries, and rewrite a lot of their code. How can we fix that? Part of the problem is th

[Zope3-dev] Re: The vision thing

2006-03-05 Thread Paul Everitt
Max M wrote: Geoff Davis wrote: Jeff Shell has posted some thought-provoking pieces on his blog that are relevant to Jim's recent attempt to better articulate a vision for Zope: http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2006/03/zope-crisis-of-faith-coming-this-march.html http://griddlenoise.blogspot

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Two visions?

2006-03-02 Thread Paul Everitt
Geoff Davis wrote: On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:38:03 -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: I think that the idea of giving Zed its own, distinct identity is great. Zope 3 is a _huge_ overhaul and it needs to be obvious to the world that it is dramatically better than crufty old Zope 2. Zope 3 then becomes the

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Two visions?

2006-03-02 Thread Paul Everitt
Stefane Fermigier wrote: Geoff Davis wrote: I think that the idea of giving Zed its own, distinct identity is great.. I think it is stupid. We (Zope Corp + the Zope Community) have spent 8 years building the Zope brand, and you want to restart from scratch ? Hehe, poor Geoff. :) In the pas

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Visionaire! (All your problems, solved)

2006-03-02 Thread Paul Everitt
Jeff Shell wrote: Yes. There's a dominant Zope name out there. It's not the Component Architecture nor is it built on it. It's starting to use it, but it's not based on it. However, since the project that Zope 3 [AS] came out of is still identified in the Wiki as the 'Component Architecture' proj

[Zope3-dev] Re: Persistent Schemas?

2006-03-01 Thread Paul Everitt
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 3/1/06, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does this help with implementing persistent schemas at all? Maybe, although I feel that the interface-based schemas was a mistake anyway. It would probably be better to focus energy on making XForms based schemas, both

Re: Zope 3 Marketing Competition? (was Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Selecting a code name)

2006-02-07 Thread Paul Everitt
Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday 06 February 2006 20:49, Gary Poster wrote: How about we have a marketing competition? :-) +1 from me plus everything else you said below. Yep, it's a good idea. --Paul ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Publication Post-Processing

2005-09-15 Thread Paul Everitt
Jim Fulton wrote: At: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/PublicationPostProcessing I've put doesn some thoughs for discussion on making the publication APIs more explicit and for supporting post processing tasks like adding standard look and feel or adding m

[Zope3-dev] Re: ANN: Zope activities at EuroPython 2005, Jun 27-29, Sweden

2005-05-27 Thread Paul Everitt
Tim Terlegård wrote: On Sat, 21 May 2005, Paul Everitt wrote: Z3 ECM Sprint - There are several sprints getting organized at EuroPython. The Z3 ECM team is planning a pretty serious effort to kickstart its activities. The Z3 ECM sprint starts at noon on Thursday, June 23 and

[Zope3-dev] ANN: Zope activities at EuroPython 2005, Jun 27-29, Sweden

2005-05-21 Thread Paul Everitt
nt, and more. o Julien Anguenot ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) will lead a team working on the the ECM workflow architecture and continue the existing prototype. Discussion about the WfMC standard and the 3 architecture layers (xpdcore/wfmc/ecmworkflow) plus the existing work on the Zope 3 trunk is p

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3 / ECM] : Project launched !

2005-05-17 Thread Paul Everitt
Maik Röder wrote: Hi, - to unify the whole Zope/CMS-involved community to drastically reduce waste of resources (doing twice or more equivalent components / features). How do you plan to keep the project apart from the interests of Nuxeo? Although Julien's intro said Paris and on behalf of