RE: [Zope3-dev] BBB

2006-05-16 Thread dev
Hi Adam > Behalf Of Adam Groszer > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 8:32 AM > To: zope3-dev > Subject: [Zope3-dev] BBB > > Hi there, > > I'm working on removing BBB warnings of our current app for 3.3. > For the directive it was possible to give the >

[Zope3-dev] BBB

2006-05-15 Thread Adam Groszer
Hi there, I'm working on removing BBB warnings of our current app for 3.3. For the directive it was possible to give the factory some parameters like this: Now, with the directive that's not possible. -- Best regards, Adam mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quote of the d

Re: Deprecation period (was Re: [Zope3-dev] BBB and Deprecation Warnings)

2006-01-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
For me one year is fine as a deprecation period. I feel that sites should be kept stable when working, and then, after maybe a year or two or more, when needed, moved to a new and updated system. If you then have special software, you'll need to update it. If we want those types of updates to work

Re: Deprecation period (was Re: [Zope3-dev] BBB and Deprecation Warnings)

2006-01-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Benji York wrote at 2006-1-4 14:22 -0500: >Dieter Maurer wrote: >> Jim Fulton wrote at 2006-1-3 14:41 -0500: >>>I think 12 months is a bit short. I don't think the backward-compatibility >>>code >>>is that burdonsome, once written. What do other folks think? >> >> If the backward compatibility

Re: Deprecation period (was Re: [Zope3-dev] BBB and Deprecation Warnings)

2006-01-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Tim Peters wrote at 2006-1-4 14:51 -0500: >[Dieter Maurer] >> If the backward compatibility period gets shorter, >> we will skip more and more releases because of the increased burden >> to get our applications running again... > >Well, every new release will remove features deprecated N releases >

Re: Deprecation period (was Re: [Zope3-dev] BBB and Deprecation Warnings)

2006-01-04 Thread Tim Peters
[Dieter Maurer] > If the backward compatibility period gets shorter, > we will skip more and more releases because of the increased burden > to get our applications running again... Well, every new release will remove features deprecated N releases ago, where N is presumably some constant whose va

Re: Deprecation period (was Re: [Zope3-dev] BBB and Deprecation Warnings)

2006-01-04 Thread Benji York
Dieter Maurer wrote: Jim Fulton wrote at 2006-1-3 14:41 -0500: I think 12 months is a bit short. I don't think the backward-compatibility code is that burdonsome, once written. What do other folks think? If the backward compatibility period gets shorter, we will skip more and more releases b

Re: Deprecation period (was Re: [Zope3-dev] BBB and Deprecation Warnings)

2006-01-04 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jim Fulton wrote at 2006-1-3 14:41 -0500: > ... >I think 12 months is a bit short. I don't think the backward-compatibility >code >is that burdonsome, once written. What do other folks think? If the backward compatibility period gets shorter, we will skip more and more releases because of the i

Re: Deprecation period (was Re: [Zope3-dev] BBB and Deprecation Warnings)

2006-01-04 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 03.01.2006, 14:41 -0500 schrieb Jim Fulton: > > As much as BBB code annoys me personally, I think maintaining a minimum > > compatibility window is necessary for an important class of user. > > I think 12 months is a bit short. I don't think the backward-compatibility > co

Deprecation period (was Re: [Zope3-dev] BBB and Deprecation Warnings)

2006-01-03 Thread Jim Fulton
Benji York wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 03 January 2006 13:33, Benji York wrote: > As a corollary, it would be time now to remove the BBB that should be > removed for 3.3. Should we wait for 3.4? Following the rules above, if 3.3 will be released more than 12 months since the rel

Re: [Zope3-dev] BBB and Deprecation Warnings

2006-01-03 Thread Benji York
Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 03 January 2006 13:33, Benji York wrote: > As a corollary, it would be time now to remove the BBB that should be > removed for 3.3. Should we wait for 3.4? Following the rules above, if 3.3 will be released more than 12 months since the release of 3.1, it would

Re: [Zope3-dev] BBB and Deprecation Warnings

2006-01-03 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 13:33, Benji York wrote: >  > As a corollary, it would be time now to remove the BBB that should be >  > removed for 3.3. Should we wait for 3.4? > > Following the rules above, if 3.3 will be released more than 12 months > since the release of 3.1, it would be OK to remov

Re: [Zope3-dev] BBB and Deprecation Warnings

2006-01-03 Thread Benji York
Stephan Richter wrote: > So let's make the deprecation support also time-based. What time would > you prefer? I would prefer two releases and a minimum of 12 months. That way if the time-based releases slip, we still guarantee two releases with backward compatible code. If we release more often

[Zope3-dev] BBB and Deprecation Warnings

2006-01-03 Thread Stephan Richter
Hi all, now that we switched to time-based releases, it seems that our policy to support old API for two more 3.x releases is not appropriate anymore. Two release cycles are now only 12 months long, which seems a bit short. So let's make the deprecation support also time-based. What time would