Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-30 Thread Chris Withers
Sidnei da Silva wrote: What I think is that the Zope ZConfig schema should have something just like 'package-includes' is for ZCML. A place where you can drop a snippet of ZConfig schema and it will get picked up at boot time. Try having a play with MailingLogger in Zope 2. Both the .conf and

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-27 Thread Martijn Faassen
Dieter Maurer wrote: Stephan Richter wrote at 2006-1-26 10:16 -0500: but ZCML meta directives and schemas are so easy to use. I do not yet know ZCML... In my experience it is indeed fairly easy to extend ZCML; it's a pretty nice system that way. When I have read your book I was scared

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-27 Thread Benji York
Jim Fulton wrote: Also, on a related note, I've been somewhat impressed lately with the way people have been able to twist ConfigParser beyond its apparent capabilities in both Paste Deploy and in our prototype buildout system. In particular, we've been able to create hierarchical sections by

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-26 Thread Jim Fulton
Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 05:28:14PM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: | There are a bunch of issues to be resolved, like the fact that it's | not possible to access the initial ZConfig options object because it's | thrown away, so, in order of priority: | | 1. It's not possible to

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-26 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 06:30:02AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: | Sidnei da Silva wrote: | On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 05:28:14PM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: | | There are a bunch of issues to be resolved, like the fact that it's | | not possible to access the initial ZConfig options object because it's | |

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-26 Thread Dieter Maurer
Stephan Richter wrote at 2006-1-26 10:16 -0500: On Thursday 26 January 2006 10:04, Jim Fulton wrote: Every change I've ever been involved with has been extremely painful. I can't even explain well what made it painful because I didn't really understand what was going on and needed help from

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: [snip] I think that the way the server and app are integrated needs to be rethought. I think we need to look at how to leverage Paste Deploy in Zope. I hate to mention this with all of the discussion about ZConfig, but we should probably consider using PasteDeploy as an

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-25 Thread Jim Fulton
Martijn Faassen wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: [snip] I think that the way the server and app are integrated needs to be rethought. I think we need to look at how to leverage Paste Deploy in Zope. I hate to mention this with all of the discussion about ZConfig, but we should probably consider

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-25 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 05:15:43PM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: | Any thoughts? | | I think that the way the server and app are integrated needs to be | rethought. | | I think we need to look at how to leverage Paste Deploy in Zope. | | I hate to mention this with all of the discussion about

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-25 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 05:28:14PM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: | There are a bunch of issues to be resolved, like the fact that it's | not possible to access the initial ZConfig options object because it's | thrown away, so, in order of priority: | | 1. It's not possible to find where the

Re: [Zope3-dev] Deploying WSGI Apps with Zope 3.2+

2006-01-24 Thread Jim Fulton
Sidnei da Silva wrote: Hello, I'm refactoring a application developed for Zope 3.0, and in the proccess of doing that, one of the things I wanted to do is to remove some hardcoded xslt pipeline and instead use a WSGI 'middleware' or 'filter'. Cool So.. I was planning to use paste.deploy to