Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-24 Thread Chris Withers
Stuart Bishop wrote: silence it (and open a bug report at the same time). The noisier test output is, the more likely you are to miss relevant information. Totally agreed, I was kinda shocked at how many deprecation errors Zope 2.9 ships with :-( Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zo

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-23 Thread Stuart Bishop
Chris Withers wrote: > Here's a literal screen dump: > > C:\Zope\2.9i>C:\Zope\2.9.1\bin\python.exe C:\Zope\2.9.1\bin\test.py > --config-file C:\Zope\2.9i\etc\zope.conf --keepbytecode > Parsing C:\Zope\2.9i\etc\zope.conf > Running tests at level 1 > Running unit tests: > Running: > .C:\Zope\

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-23 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: > Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > >> Tres Seaver wrote: >> >>> I'm not sure what Chris meant, but the change to the visual output of >>> the testrunner when running "with dots" seems gratuitous to me, as well >>> -- I don't see

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-23 Thread Chris Withers
Martijn Faassen wrote: Anyway, a release and the development situation looking similar helps people actually work on the same codebase and structure, and not having to learn different ways of doing things as soon as they switch. Forcing context switches on people isn't a good idea. Huge +1 fr

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-23 Thread Chris Withers
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: I'm not sure what Chris meant, but the change to the visual output of the testrunner when running "with dots" seems gratuitous to me, as well -- I don't see any benefit to the "indented, narrower" output, Me neither, for what it's worth. Ok

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-23 Thread Chris Withers
Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 21 March 2006 02:54, Chris Withers wrote: I particularly hate the fact that no real effort was put into backwards compatibility, not to mention those silly weird sort-of-fifty-dots-per-line thing that doesn't actually work. I think this is not fair. Jim has tr

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-22 Thread Paul Winkler
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 06:25:41PM +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Anyway, a release and the development situation looking similar helps > people actually work on the same codebase and structure, and not having > to learn different ways of doing things as soon as they switch. Forcing > context s

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-22 Thread Martijn Faassen
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: [snip] I still don't understand why people whine about "make install" being gone. The point of a checkout is that you have a full functional SVN working copy, not an installation source. If you want to install things, use a TGZ archive which lets you do "make inst

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-22 Thread Chris Withers
Jim Fulton wrote: From the old testrunner, which I miss *a lot*, I could ensure I am indeed running a specific module by doing... Yup, this is one of the things I like least from the Zope 3 world. What happened to proposals and community agreement before inflicting big changes on other peopl

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-22 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: > Tres Seaver wrote: > ... > >> I'm not sure what Chris meant, but the change to the visual output of >> the testrunner when running "with dots" seems gratuitous to me, as well >> - -- I don't see any benefit to the "indented, narrow

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-22 Thread Jim Fulton
Tres Seaver wrote: ... I'm not sure what Chris meant, but the change to the visual output of the testrunner when running "with dots" seems gratuitous to me, as well - -- I don't see any benefit to the "indented, narrower" output, especially because it's "prettiness" gets fouled up anyway by depre

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-22 Thread Benji York
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I've never installed Zope anywhere except on production servers anyway, and there you should obviously use releases. I don't think "obviously" necessarily applies there. There are good reasons for wanting to install from a checkout. If you absolutely must u

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: > I'm not sure what Chris meant, but the change to the visual output of > the testrunner when running "with dots" seems gratuitous to me, as well > -- I don't see any benefit to the "indented, narrower" output, Me neither, for what it's worth. > Zope 2.9 broke the 'confiugre-ma

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-21 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: > Chris Withers wrote: > >> Jens Vagelpohl wrote: >> >>> >>> From the old testrunner, which I miss *a lot*, I could ensure I am >>> indeed running a specific module by doing... >> >> >> >> Yup, this is one of the things I like least

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-21 Thread Jim Fulton
Chris Withers wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: From the old testrunner, which I miss *a lot*, I could ensure I am indeed running a specific module by doing... Yup, this is one of the things I like least from the Zope 3 world. What happened to proposals and community agreement before inflicti

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner

2006-03-21 Thread Chris Withers
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: From the old testrunner, which I miss *a lot*, I could ensure I am indeed running a specific module by doing... Yup, this is one of the things I like least from the Zope 3 world. What happened to proposals and community agreement before inflicting big changes on other