Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Beginner's question: Components without persistence?

2006-02-28 Thread Brad Allen
At 2:46 PM +0100 2/28/06, Lennart Regebro wrote: On 2/28/06, Reinhold Strobl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where do I put application logic??? Ööööh. In Python code? :-) I have the feeling I don't understand the question. I think I understand the question. Most of the tutorials show how to

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-05 Thread Brad Allen
At 6:11 AM -0500 2/5/06, Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 04 February 2006 14:00, Brad Allen wrote: I won't have any time to volunteer for such a project for several weeks, but I could do it during the upcoming Zope 3 sprint at PyCon (my skill is not great enough to contribute to Zope 3

[Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-04 Thread Brad Allen
Here's example of someone who the Zope site has chased off: http://online.effbot.org/#20060203 Excerpt: (And I'm not so sure about Zope, really . It feels stuck in 1998, way too often. Reading zope.org is like discovering that you clicked on the wrong elevator button, and ended up in a

RE: [Zope3-Users] Re: Is Zope Zope2 or Zope3?

2006-01-21 Thread Brad Allen
Zope stlll means Zope 2 even on the Zope website in many places. I've encountered this same confusion in various places, and don't know how long it will take for the word to get out or how long bloggers and reviewers will have to take pains to explain the difference between Zope 3 and Zope 2.

[Zope3-Users] Zope3 at Pycon

2005-12-04 Thread Brad Allen
Looks like there will be three Zope 3 talks at the upcoming Pycon, although I was surprised to see no sprints or tutorials for Zope 3. In any case, I will be there, and would enjoy meeting some folks who are into Zope 3. Let me know if anyone wants to do a Zope 3 dinner or somesuch. Since I'm a

Re: [Zope3-Users] Direct ZODB access in a Zope3 instance

2005-12-01 Thread Brad Allen
At 11:48 AM +0100 12/1/05, Johan Carlsson wrote: To access an object in the ZODB you need to have a context (that is a pointer to a object stored in ZODB, it almost alway is but in some situations it's not! I've learned that the hard way). If your in a browser class you will have the context

Re: [Zope3-Users] Direct ZODB access in a Zope3 instance

2005-12-01 Thread Brad Allen
At 11:48 AM +0100 12/1/05, Johan Carlsson wrote: The ZAPI interface gives you several ways to traverse object from a context: For instance getParent, (getParents,) getRoot, traverse, (traverseName) On my first reading of your posting, I missed getRoot. That sounds promising. If I can get the

Re: [Zope3-Users] need guidance

2005-11-30 Thread Brad Allen
At 1:17 AM -0500 11/30/05, Chris McDonough wrote: While you're developing, it's much easier because the *content* in your ZODB doesn't typically have any value during development. If it does have value during development, you have a development model that's not similar to mine. Well, I

[Zope3-Users] list archives for zope3-users

2005-11-30 Thread Brad Allen
I'm looking for a better way to search and read the list archives for this list. Here are the list archives that I know about. Text file archives: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-users Searchable mail archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/zope3-users@zope.org/ Gmane provides a variety of

[Zope3-Users] Direct ZODB access in a Zope3 instance

2005-11-30 Thread Brad Allen
Based on discussion in the 'need guidance' thread, I started looking into how to access the Zope ZODB directly from within Python scripts. I haven't gotten very far yet. I'm still at the beginning of the docs at http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/FrontPage/guide/zodb.html trying out the example code.

Re: [Zope3-Users] need guidance

2005-11-30 Thread Brad Allen
At 10:45 AM -0700 11/30/05, Duncan McGreggor wrote: Hmm, again, I think you *might* want to stay away from an approach that interacts directly with the ZODB. Unless you're not using z3/Zope 2... I didn't see this posting until after I started a new thread called Direct ZODB access in a

Re: [Zope3-Users] need guidance

2005-11-30 Thread Brad Allen
At 7:55 AM -0500 11/30/05, Stephan Richter wrote: We are currently not supporting TTW development. Thus, in Zope 3 you cannot develop templates TTW well yet. Ok, that alters my plans somewhat. But I can still have end user contribute/edit content within the ZMI, right? Maybe a ZPT component

Re: [Zope3-Users] need guidance

2005-11-30 Thread Brad Allen
At 12:33 PM -0700 11/30/05, Duncan McGreggor wrote: In addition, I've written a python script that auto-generates a starter z3 project for you, after asking a couple questions. If you want to use it, I'd be more than willing to answer any questions about it (an thus improve it) off-list. You

Re: [Zope3-Users] need guidance

2005-11-29 Thread Brad Allen
Duncan McGreggor [EMAIL PROTECTED] It sounds like a pain, and to be honest, at first it is a bit arduous. Not only does it get faster and become second nature, but chunks of it can be generalized and reused. It really doesn't take that long to get accustomed to it. And once you start doing it

[Zope3-Users] reST for content editors

2005-11-25 Thread Brad Allen
I'd prefer to allow content editors on my site to avoid having to type HTML, and have heard that reST might be a good, wiki-like choice. However, it's not clear to me how to get that working with ZPT content insertions. Would I need to build a new content class for this, or is there some

Re: [Zope3-Users] How to hide the ZMI

2005-11-25 Thread Brad Allen
I'm working on a simple site which, to start with, just uses bare ZPT functionality. I've been reading Philkon's book sections dealing with TAL, TALES, and METAL, and it's starting to make some sense. The part I'm stuck on is how to make the ZMI disappear so the end user sees only the page I

[Zope3-Users] namespaces.zope.org doesn't resolve

2005-11-02 Thread Brad Allen
Most of the zcml configuration files I've seen contain xmlns=http://namespaces.zope.org/zope;. I wanted to read about what was in that namespace, so I tried to load that page in a web browser. This name just doesn't seem to resolve in DNS. I guess my ignorance about XML is showing here. Where

[Zope3-Users] MessageBoard tutorial deprecation warnings

2005-10-30 Thread Brad Allen
The messageboard tutorial in the Zope 3 Developer's Handbook doesn't seem to work for me. I'm using the copy from svn co svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/book/trunk The SVN url listed in the book didn't work, but I'm not sure this is the right one. Anyway, I'm using the step13 folder, and when

Re: [Zope3-Users] which psycopg works with Zope3?

2005-10-27 Thread Brad Allen
At 6:13 PM +0400 10/26/05, Dmitry Vasiliev wrote: - The tarball version is for use with ZopeX3-3.0.0 and psycopg v1.0; - The svn version works with Zope 3.1 (and should work with Zope 3.2) and still psycopg v1.0; - Psycopg v2.0 is not supported for now; Thanks for your help on this, Dmitry.

[Zope3-Users] problems getting started under Ubuntu 5.10

2005-10-17 Thread Brad Allen
Hi, I'm trying to get started with Zope3 under Ubuntu 5.10. The package manager for Ubuntu installed Zope 3.1.0-1. The first problem I had was creating a Zope instance. Here is what happened: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/zope3/bin$